Most of the wacky teachings and ideas of those two have gone, apart from the discredited 1914 nonsense.
The Org. remains an anachronistic 19th Century Doomsday Cult.
russell is kind of acknowledged as the founder, but rutherford is the one who really made the wt what it is, or at least laid the foundations for what it came to be, today.
how much would someone from that era recognise in the wt today?
what are the big changes that they would see?.
Most of the wacky teachings and ideas of those two have gone, apart from the discredited 1914 nonsense.
The Org. remains an anachronistic 19th Century Doomsday Cult.
re-posting this for reference.. #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..
#2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..
#3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..
" Nobody can be that wilfully ignorant. " he is a Troll, and deliberately ignorant in the chosen comments, I suspect this Troll knows the Truth.
There are, sadly, in this the Information Age, many who are wilfully ignorant, a couple of clicks of a mouse and Bingo ! there is your Information, which the sensible then Fact Check etc.
The worrying ones are, not only lazy older ones, but especially the younger ones who it seems if there isn't an App. for it on their surgically attached 'phone, they will go no further to find real Factual, True Information.
People who fit that description on this Site surprise me, surely after years of being lied to by the Org. they want to know what is True ???
Evolution, as you said Cofty IS TRUE ! Undeniably, if anyone thinks they can blow a huge hole in it, GO AHEAD ! Win yourself a Nobel Prize !
"molecules don't care about life.
" first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.
second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.
The more you get to know, the more you realise that you know very little, I have found ! But now my mind is open to all ideas, I find learning a real pleasure !
My mind is not so open that my brain fell out, so I Fact Check, check the sources and Authorities of Scholars who are referenced, even if I am studying a seemingly good Paper or Book, that is presented as Academics do, I found a Paper a while ago, it looked very learned and seemed to make some sense, but the "Authorities" appealed to all turned out to be of the same "school" of thought, suspicious that ! Academic Books do that too.
So be careful, use Critical Thinking skills, and the above checks, and a wealth of knowledge that is trustworthy is out there !
yesterday i was visited by 2 witnesses, and we had a long chat about lots of things!
one of them named claire took the lead and i instantly felt some sort of connection to her, after we had spoken and they had left i started to have this overwhelming feeling to research her and what she had spoken about but i couldn’t find her anywhere on any website or social media, so i left it and thought nothing more of it all day….
however the strange thing is i had a dream that night and claire was in it, many things happened in this dream that i was told i was only allowed to speak about with claire, i can speak of the dream to others but the details only me and claire can know!
Dreams have no meaning that should be acted upon, or even thought about too much.
"molecules don't care about life.
" first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.
second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.
I really can't be arsed to watch a Vid. from a charlatan pushing intelligent design and misrepresenting where we are with Abiogenesis at present.
Vidqun, you need to actually research for yourself where we are with our knowledge now. The process of how life began has been observed and replicated, in other words, in a Lab. it was observed happening.
There is plenty of accurate Info. out there, easily accessible, one book which is good on this is "Life Ascending" , I forget the Authors name, it is from over a decade ago, so research has moved on since then, but the process described is still the current hypothesis.
"Intelligent Design"is utter bollocks, this comment from Ken Miller, a Scientist, but a believer in a kind of god, a practicing Catholic, is revealing :
He had this to say about the ideas of I.D. that they are “ rejected by Science because they do not fit the facts, and for having failed religion because they think too little of God”.
Ken Miller wrote “ The Falgellum Unspun” about how bacteria developed the flagellum, a sort of corkscrew propeller ??, so as to be able to move.
this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
"They used to use scriptures to back it up." Too true ! there were a few in some neighbouring Congregations to mine, and at least one in mine, that REFUSED to Report time.
The C.O on his visit spent one of his talks mostly showing from Scripture why they SHOULD !
so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
" They have effectively made “active publisher” so easy to accomplish that it is now an utterly meaningless designation. "
That was part of the reason for doing it, if over 8 million JW's tick the box, then they can claim over 8 million active members worldwide. Thus making their retention figures look better for a while, The young ones are leaving in droves it seems, so won't be ticking any boxes !
jehovah's witnesses are not encouraging university education... but those who are lawyers already can apply to volunteer to help at bethel.. https://youtu.be/5d_-1lbg-oc?si=fsxeewic-fkczu9p.
" having less-than-ideal clients could get bad for business. " Especially if those lawyers lose in Court, not good for business, perhaps the JW org will become as untouchable as Trump. please, only piss-poor Lawyers to choose from.
this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
"Truly, Jehovah’s Witnesses have a bunch of meathead dimwits running this religion!🤣" I agree with that as applied to the G.B, but the shadowy Financial and Legal guys are maybe not the sharpest tools in the box compared to others in "the World", but THEY I'm sure a behind this move.
As said earlier in this Thread, it distances the Org. from the accusation of "Agency" over JW's responsible directly for Abuse or those who should have prevented it. Therefore liability is denied, and the poor victims do not get their deserved Justice from "Jehovah's loving Org." Or even a degree of Closure, they remain Victims for the rest of their lives. That is both mercenary and Cruel.
Follow the Money is always a good dictum when they do ANYTHING these days.
by the time you reach the nine minute and forty one second mark you will know why i posted this.this may be old news to you - but i just discovered it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74s7jg1fdf4&t=582s.
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I am sure this verdict could be torn to shreds by any capable Lawyer.