i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?
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Iwant2know posted :" Phizzy said:
Hence all of their unique Doctrines are false, using just the Bible to prove them so.
What do you mean?"
I shall repost Van's excellent explanation of what I meant in the above :
" The truth is
Every unique doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses is extra-biblical, .ie., not found in the Bible.
Every teaching that is unique and original to the religion, is derived by eisegesis rather than exegesis I.e., speculation additional to scripture. "
i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?
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Interpretation of Scripture, in a scholarly or even adult way, is an expertise entirely lacking in the J.W org.
Hence all of their unique Doctrines are false, using just the Bible to prove them so.
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Immense thanks Atlantis !! This is so useful, this information informs us of the latest crafty moves by the Org. to try to absolve them from their Moral Duty to fully protect the vulnerable, and of course try to wriggle out of paying rightful compensation to the poor Victims.
What a disgusting Org, they are ! caring ONLY for $$$ and having zero care for people !
Christian they ARE NOT !!
Thanks again.
thank you atlantis for the emails that you send out to so many of us.
in one email that i received dated 21st october was a jw document title "information for patients requiring chemotherapy or surgery".
the organization never ceases to shock and i was disgusted with the information included in this document because it leads to their followers not getting the best medical care, not just because of their no blood policy but because of the other repercussions which they highlight in this information guide.. they begin by stating they are not giving medical advice, just information to help individuals make their own decisions.. point 7 states.
" stating they are not giving medical advice, just information to help individuals make their own decisions. "
That Rider has been added so they cannot be sued and have to pay compensation, when their murderous, unscriptural advice is followed,
so they mentioned noah couldn’t have preached to all the population back before the flood.
do you think they might start using common sense regarding not being able to get every animal type on the ark from the whole world?.
maybe the poor sloth from south america didn’t have to crawl all the way?
The Flood Story is plainly an Interpolation in Genesis, and is based upon an earlier Pagan mythic Fable we find in the Epic of Gilgamesh, and goes right back to ancient Sumer of 7,000 years ago, and may be an even older Myth, but as writing was invented in Sumer, it is the earliest example of it that we have.
The Genesis version takes many features exactly, word for word in some instances, and in the same order, as we find them in the earlier versions of the Fable.
The Joker who got it in to Genesis would laugh his socks off, if he returned today and saw how J.W's and others view it.
Absolutely sickening.
this is from a site called "atheist republic" :.
" the phenomenon of "nones" — individuals who claim no religious affiliation — is rapidly reshaping america's religious landscape.
recent surveys by the associated press-norc center for public affairs research indicate that 30% of u.s. adults identify as nonreligious.
"Christian Values" is a nebulous term, like "British Values", both much beloved by Politicians and others, because it SOUNDS as though they have a working Moral Compass.
"Woke" was used by people as an epithet, like "Snowflake" or similar, as the great Kathy Burke said : "I'd rather be Woke than a f***ing Twat !".
I think many of the "Nones" wish to retain what they see as good moral values, which they imagine are derived from some religious source, and most retain some kind of "belief", but Organised religion is as I said moribund, the J.W org. more than others. Good !
so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
" …I miss any? ", not really, but my post just back a page expands on your "bad shit...." comment, as always with the Org, follow the $$$.
so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
I haven't the time to go back overt the thread, sorry, and this point has been made I'm sure, but the point is, when the Borg makes a move, especially an unexpected one, it is always to do with the $$$.
This move gives the Org. a much stronger argument that they do not have Agency (in legalese) over individual J.W's in Abuse cases, then they will not have to pay compensation. I think that is the prime motivator for this move.
The Org. cares no more for individual members than Hamas does, and cares even less for the poor Victims of Abuse.
this is from a site called "atheist republic" :.
" the phenomenon of "nones" — individuals who claim no religious affiliation — is rapidly reshaping america's religious landscape.
recent surveys by the associated press-norc center for public affairs research indicate that 30% of u.s. adults identify as nonreligious.
My comment above about the eventual decline of organised religion, did not mean a decline in Belief, to a huge degree, and was looking probably decades into the future.
Islam increases its numbers mainly by producing children, not a great number convert, people, just a few ,are leaving Islam here in the U.K, and parts of Europe, but of course, it is a harder thing to do than leaving the J.W's.
Sadly some may be further entrenched by the events of the recent war.
But, organised religion is moribund, and that is a good thing, it has far too much influence Politically throughout the World, and religions are the wombs that give birth to most Terrorists.
