the society has been working on the nwt study bible since the revised nwt was released in 2013. so far they done the nt up to philemon.
that makes about 17% of the entire bible including the hebrew/aramaic scriptures.
at that rate the study edition of the whole nwt will be completed sometime around the year 2077. .
Yup, and that one is not even subtle ! they have added words changing the whole point of the verse, obviously because Translating it honestly plainly shows the G.B. and Org. are guilty of this VERY Sin ! and should be fully accountable !
Here is an honest rendering from the NIV : " “‘If anyone sins because they do not speak up when they hear a public charge to testify regarding something they have seen or learned about, they will be held responsible."
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/feb/17/fiction-opened-my-eyes-author-jodie-chapman-on-growing-up-as-a-jehovahs-witness?fbclid=iwar3slqo_dfedknxgy9c9hf50ppxz_lhzca12xmv0q3jpnxdgldptlirv8o0.
1984 is an anti-totalitarian Book, not anti socialist. Orwell is showing how easy it is for States to become Totalitarian, and how difficult it is for individuals to resist and oppose, and for groups to do so. No doubt in the forefront of his mind was the rise of Fascism.
It is a timely reminder in the Era of Trump and similar figures.
I too did not "get" a lot of what I read as a young man, being indoctrinated and Mind Controlled by the J.W org. from birth. It is a constant regret for me, much of what I read should have made my awakening happen much earlier in life, but Mind Control is so very strong, insidious and downright Evil.
Jodie's Books show clearly the effect of Mind Control at work on her characters before they break free.
an interesting video was on youtube with a person claiming that the memorial date for 2024 was wrong.
so i consulted three different jewish calendars online and sure enough, he appears to be right.
i went back to 2014 and forward to 2027. they have the future dates listed.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/209120/why-memorial-held-on-wrong-day
Above is the Link to a Leolaias's excellent, erudite Thread on this, as usual, it is long, but very informative !
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/feb/17/fiction-opened-my-eyes-author-jodie-chapman-on-growing-up-as-a-jehovahs-witness?fbclid=iwar3slqo_dfedknxgy9c9hf50ppxz_lhzca12xmv0q3jpnxdgldptlirv8o0.
Jodie it seems is a different character than the likes of the JW Bashing XJW's. She was obviously a full on believer to a great extent, and seems to have empathy and respect for those still trapped in the Org.
Jodie's Books are good, obviously based upon the J.W's but they are not named. The dedication in the second Novel says (from memory) "I have changed the name of the religion in this Book, out of respect for my mother, I have written the Story out of respect for me".
The first Novel, "Another Life" showed me a lot about the nature of Love. the second "Oh Sister" was interesting to me, as it follows the lives of some of the characters from the first one, after they have left the religion. I identified with a lot of their emotions.
Jodie is working on her third Novel I believe.
the society has been working on the nwt study bible since the revised nwt was released in 2013. so far they done the nt up to philemon.
that makes about 17% of the entire bible including the hebrew/aramaic scriptures.
at that rate the study edition of the whole nwt will be completed sometime around the year 2077. .
" Their ‘solution’? Completely ignore reference to those verses in their study notes." Yes they do that most "studiously" LOL.
I also have noticed in the existing Study Bible that the footnotes they do give often ignore the latest , or even quite old Scholarship, on the verses in question, where the learned comments of a number of Scholars are at variance with J.W Dogma. Of course they do, but that means the publication is of little use to someone wishing to understand what the Bible Writers really said, and worthless to the serious student digging as deep as possible.
just wondering if the witnesses still go door to door.
once in a while i see them doing their cart work and my still in relatives talk about going out in cart work, never mention door to door.
i haven't had a knock on my door since probably 2 years before covid.
The Letters come over as following a Template, and an American one at that, which will jar with the public here in the U.K. When the Writer claims to be "one of your neighbours" but lives nowhere near you, and you live miles from the nearest K.H., it comes over as a crafty Sales Pitch to us here.
Also talking down to adults in the way they do, as though we are children, or simpletons, means the Letter goes straight in the Bin.
Another exercise just to keep J.W Rank and File feel as though they are doing something positive, is a major Fail, just like the Carts.
the pennsylvania supreme court memorandum opinion that i posted on this discussion board yesterday was confusing enough for me to ask attorney irwin zalkin to explain the issues.
he promptly replied and gave me permission to post here the following important information that he provided.. "the pennsylvania supreme court memorandum opinion raises the question of whether jehovah’s witnesses (“jw’s”) elders, who are volunteer clergy, fall under an exception to the mandatory reporting law of the state of pennsylvania.
jw’s members of the ivy hill congregation of jw’s sued the pa department of human services (dhs) and asked the court to issue a judgment that as a matter of law makes jw’s elders exempt from pa’s mandatory reporting of known or suspected child abuse, including child sexual abuse.
Thanks for this clear explanation from Irwin Zalkin Barbara, what he says was what I gleaned, but this has made it much easier to understand for those with no legal training. It took me a while to unpick the original info. !
What this debacle shows is two things, one the J.W Legal Dept. and whoever advises them , are inept, i.e Suing the wrong Party ! Schoolboy error that !
And second, they are still more interested in hiding the extent of CSA that went on in the past, as they are of that which goes on today, and that they have Zero compassion, empathy or any love for the poor victims, past, present or future !
It is the Moral Duty of any J.W, but especially Elders, to report any putative CSA they come across, even a rumour, STRAIGHT AWAY to the appropriate Authorities, regardless of what the Law does or does not compel.
No fannying around phoning the Legal Dept or Service Dept, REPORT it directly, then tell J.W H.Q you have done so, if you wish.
To do any less is Immoral !
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/feb/17/fiction-opened-my-eyes-author-jodie-chapman-on-growing-up-as-a-jehovahs-witness?fbclid=iwar3slqo_dfedknxgy9c9hf50ppxz_lhzca12xmv0q3jpnxdgldptlirv8o0.
thought this summary from helge kare fauskanger was well written and worth sharing.. "for starters, imagine a distinctly insular form of protestant fundamentalism minus the trinity (god and jesus are held to be separate beings, and the holy spirit is god's active power rather than a person).
note: since the witnesses want to think of their faith as something absolutely unique, they themselves will not agree that they are either protestant or fundamentalist.. * very important to call god by his proper name of jehovah, and as noted, you must not get him mixed up with jesus.
jesus is not part of the godhead but "actually" the first created being, through whom jehovah created the rest of the universe.
" Such as JWs refuse to fight in wars and have been the most imprisoned and persecuted religious group of the past century as a result." Good point !
And much unjustified persecution is heaped upon them for not openly supporting the State, hence they are perceived, quite wrongly, as enemies of the State in question.
It is amazing to think that Posters on here can clearly and correctly identify what J.W's believe and teach today (tomorrow it may be different of course !), but nearly every J.W today CANNOT DO SO ! all they are capable of is referring people to their J.W org, Site, which is designed more to obfuscate what they actually believe and practice, rather than to inform.
just wondering if the witnesses still go door to door.
once in a while i see them doing their cart work and my still in relatives talk about going out in cart work, never mention door to door.
i haven't had a knock on my door since probably 2 years before covid.
But with D. to D. now all but dead in reality, we won't get those opportunities, where in the past I am sure well informed and well expressed comments have planted seeds of doubt at the very least !
