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Prisoners of the Mind
by iloowy.goowy inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dadlccbe_js.
have you ever seen a full-grown elephant weighing thousands of pounds chained to a small stake in the ground when you visited a circus?
did it ever enter your mind and make you wonder how such a small stake in the ground could hold such a huge animal from straying outside the boundaries of the length of its chain and stake?
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New approach to ministry
by Mikejw inthere is a new approach to ministry where the direction is to just talk to people and listen to what they want to talk about.
the new school for the midweek meeting is completely different and is all about the new approach .
even before the no reporting changes field service dropped right off.
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Phizzy
" there is a new approach these days of just chatting and listening not even talking about the Bible at all first time.
in one of the videos a sister said she loves the new way, she just talks to people about anything and doesn’t bring up the Bible at all."
Marvellous ! The Org. is determined to make it as easy as possible for J.W's to stay in the Org. This means that the ones leaving or becoming inactive, has them really worried. Now there is more incentive to stay, and do Fake Ministry, Report this Sham Time spent, and be counted as active.
Many, even though being aware it is all Bullshite will be happy to stay, as it is their Social Club, and they don't want a rift with family.
The funny thing is that in the latter years of being in and slowly waking up, this is EXACTLY the kind of "Ministry" I used to do ! I worked it that I rarely went D to D with another JW, saying I felt I had more conversations when I was alone at the door.
Admittedly I was more conscientious than today's JW's will be in the main, and turned the conversation toward what I was supposed to be there for on a lot of occasions, and placed loads of magazines. My Report was honest as to actual time spent, but my "ministry" would have been frowned upon by other J.W's had they known what I was up to. Now it is Officially sanctioned !
The Org. is struggling with retention, and losing, will this + beards help put a finger in the Dyke ? ( No, that is a metaphor, not a Euphemism !) LOL.
If this makes little difference to Retention, what will they ease up on next I wonder ? Their options must be small !
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trimethylmaneria (TMAU) fecal body odor
by Nicol inanyone know a witness with trimethylmaneria (tmau) or fecal body odor?
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Phizzy
No one who did any kind of work for others in the Cong. I was in was paid ! The Elders would delegate as usual, never do any work themselves, apart from one notable exception, an Elder who was a real Christian !
In the case of these young sisters, they took it upon themselves to do this, quite admirable IMO.
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trimethylmaneria (TMAU) fecal body odor
by Nicol inanyone know a witness with trimethylmaneria (tmau) or fecal body odor?
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Phizzy
I imagine the actual Medical Condition is rare, it is usually commonly called "Fish Odour Syndrome", and if you have this, caused by your Genes, there is no known cure, just things that can be done.
I think that most of the few smelly J.W's that we encountered suffered from a lack of personal cleanliness.
One Elder told me he was tasked with telling a "Sister" about her Pong, as he drove to her house he agonised about how to approach the matter in a kindly way, from an oblique angle at first, and then gently getting on to advice on how to be clean and not smell. He said that when he got in there, he just found himself saying :
"Frankly Sister, you Stink !" Ha Ha. It worked though ! but it took the help of some lovely young J.W "Sisters", to make sure it lasted and there was no relapse, they regularly visited her, and made sure she kept clean, and her smell was at least acceptable !
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The Akedah
by peacefulpete inthe genesis 22 episode, often referred to as the akedah (aqueda) ie "the binding" is a topic worthy a masterclass in textual and theological development.
a comprehensive discussion regarding this development would involve volumes and still leave much to be uncertain.
in short, the internal contradictions the narrative offers as it appears in genesis have inspired millennia of interpretive expansions and elaborations.
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Phizzy
Thanks Kaleb O.W. a helpful contribution to this subject for me. And as a person who has long been fascinated by how Israelite Theology evolved, and how the Bible was corrupted almost as soon as the Writers put Quill to Parchment, and yet how the attempts at disguising the early beliefs and practices can be revealed by careful Study, your Post was informative and enjoyable.
Your use of the Stories as metaphor is the only practical use for Scripture that I see today, that, and understanding the beliefs and culture of Jews and Christians.
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Elder Ernest Fyans will serve 20 years in prison for SA
by Tahoe inhttps://youtu.be/zq6cnuulvsg?si=ie1rhvguvzjney30
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Phizzy
" two girls under six??? And he's complaining? "
Paedophiles simply do not have the capacity to see how very wrong and downright evil what they do is.
Hence they are a permanent danger to the vulnerable, and permanent removal from Society is the only way to ensure the safety of possible future Victims. No Legislature or Justice System does this as far as I know, but they do for people known to be Murderers who will always present a danger, it should be done to Paedos as well.
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The Akedah
by peacefulpete inthe genesis 22 episode, often referred to as the akedah (aqueda) ie "the binding" is a topic worthy a masterclass in textual and theological development.
a comprehensive discussion regarding this development would involve volumes and still leave much to be uncertain.
in short, the internal contradictions the narrative offers as it appears in genesis have inspired millennia of interpretive expansions and elaborations.
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Phizzy
Several matters you touch on in the two posts above have long fascinated me.
This section of Genesis you refer to for a start, as it is plain that a number of "hands" have been involved in editing this story, and redacting it, actions we see a good number of times in Genesis, as with every other Bible Book of course, but Genesis is a bit of a mess, it could have done with a proper Editor with a keen eye to tidy it up ! I'm glad there was not, as we can clearly see where interpolations have been made, and where thinly disguised clues are that show the continuing influence of Canaanite religion, including child sacrifice, which continued probably almost up to the Babylonian Exile perhaps, or even longer ?? (I really must read Prof. Stavrakopoulou's Book on this in the time of Manasseh. ).
It is easy too to actually see the clumsy Interpolations, as in this passage, and with the Flood Story etc.
On the matter of the beliefs of the various Gnostic Christians, we have a distinct lack of material, no doubt a lot destroyed by the "orthodox" group who prevailed as the main Christian group.
I hope maybe someone else will comment on this Thread with more info. on these fascinating things
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Progress on the NWT Study Bible
by slimboyfat inthe society has been working on the nwt study bible since the revised nwt was released in 2013. so far they done the nt up to philemon.
that makes about 17% of the entire bible including the hebrew/aramaic scriptures.
at that rate the study edition of the whole nwt will be completed sometime around the year 2077. .
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Phizzy
Yup, and that one is not even subtle ! they have added words changing the whole point of the verse, obviously because Translating it honestly plainly shows the G.B. and Org. are guilty of this VERY Sin ! and should be fully accountable !
Here is an honest rendering from the NIV : " “‘If anyone sins because they do not speak up when they hear a public charge to testify regarding something they have seen or learned about, they will be held responsible."
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Great "Guardian"Article from XJW Author Jodie Chapman !
by Phizzy inhttps://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/feb/17/fiction-opened-my-eyes-author-jodie-chapman-on-growing-up-as-a-jehovahs-witness?fbclid=iwar3slqo_dfedknxgy9c9hf50ppxz_lhzca12xmv0q3jpnxdgldptlirv8o0.
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Phizzy
1984 is an anti-totalitarian Book, not anti socialist. Orwell is showing how easy it is for States to become Totalitarian, and how difficult it is for individuals to resist and oppose, and for groups to do so. No doubt in the forefront of his mind was the rise of Fascism.
It is a timely reminder in the Era of Trump and similar figures.
I too did not "get" a lot of what I read as a young man, being indoctrinated and Mind Controlled by the J.W org. from birth. It is a constant regret for me, much of what I read should have made my awakening happen much earlier in life, but Mind Control is so very strong, insidious and downright Evil.
Jodie's Books show clearly the effect of Mind Control at work on her characters before they break free.
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The Date for the Memorial is WRONG this year!
by Kelley959 inan interesting video was on youtube with a person claiming that the memorial date for 2024 was wrong.
so i consulted three different jewish calendars online and sure enough, he appears to be right.
i went back to 2014 and forward to 2027. they have the future dates listed.
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Phizzy
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/209120/why-memorial-held-on-wrong-day
Above is the Link to a Leolaias's excellent, erudite Thread on this, as usual, it is long, but very informative !