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  The Guardian: Former Jehovah's Witness elders call for mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/10/former-jehovahs-witness-elders-call-for-mandatory-reporting-of-child-sexual-abuse?fbclid=iwar13k3rzferkzvjj5lbxegzhjr1dkfw34gqchgms4gdmhjufcv24hpzjcco.

  two former jehovah’s witness elders have called for mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse, saying the organisation believes it is “answerable only to god”.. duncan corbett, who was an elder for 18 years, told the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse that the protection of minors and the handling of abuse claims must be taken out of the church’s hands.

  “let them deal with the sin and the authorities handle the crime,” he told a hearing in london.. lloyd evans, another former elder who now campaigns against religious fundamentalism, said: “this is a group that feels they are answerable only to god … they don’t feel as though they need to yield to any regulations that are imposed on them.”.

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  Phizzy

  I think the case for Mandatory Reporting has been well made by so many representatives to the Inquiry, that it is bound to call for it in its Report, which they "hope" will be published in the Summer of 2021. We then have to wait and see if the Government can be arsed to put their recommendations in to Law.

  I hope it is, along with instituting a Government run Body that audits and oversees all these religious groups and makes sure they are doing things properly. But it is a waiting game, things move slowly in this sort of area.
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  IICSA hearings resume next week

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa) will hold additional virtual public hearings in the child protection in religious organisations and settings investigation next week.. the timetable was released today: https://www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/20825/view/virtual-cpiros-timetable-week-3-10-august-2020.pdf .

  five witnesses will testify on the jw issue next monday and tuesday, 10 and 11 august:.

  - pr-a5, a victim abused by ministerial servant peter stewart;.

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  Phizzy

  By taking ownership of all Kingdom Halls the K.H Trust has a lot of assets. If they can be successfully sued, they will have the money to pay, that is one consolation.

  As all K. Halls and Congregations are their responsibility, they cannot wriggle out of being responsible for what goes on in one of their Branches. Of course, they cannot be held responsible for historic cases of abuse, which is why this move has been done, and they will try and wriggle and put all responsibility upon local Elders to follow the "present" Child Safeguarding Policy. Make a mistake brother Elder, and YOU will pay !

  It is still a minefield for any poor victim of this evil, money grubbing org. They are determined not to pay Just Compensation, or Apologise, or give any kind of closure to the poor victims. What utter bastards !
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  IICSA hearings resume next week

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa) will hold additional virtual public hearings in the child protection in religious organisations and settings investigation next week.. the timetable was released today: https://www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/20825/view/virtual-cpiros-timetable-week-3-10-august-2020.pdf .

  five witnesses will testify on the jw issue next monday and tuesday, 10 and 11 august:.

  - pr-a5, a victim abused by ministerial servant peter stewart;.

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  Phizzy

  The Inquiry has concluded, with its Report "hoped" to be published by the Summer 2021.

  Compare the response and final statement from the Baptist Church, to that of Jehovah's Witness attack dog Shaun Brady.

  If I wanted to join a Christian Church the Baptists are showing what a Christian attitude is, and why they have such an excellent attitude. I would think about joining them. The J.W's are showing they wish only to defend that which cannot be defended, and therefore to reduce the size and likelihood of Compensation Payments.

  Brady also contends that the Destruction of Records pointed out by Richard Scorer is "Untrue". I wonder if evidence will emerge that vital Documents concerning historical Abuse within Jehovah's Witnesses have been destroyed since the edict about disposing of certain Documents went out. If so Brady has very nearly committed Perjury, and certainly has if he actually had knowledge that such destruction occurred.
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  My second novel (not JW related) is on Amazon

  by JeffT in

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  2. friends

  “1912: war for the white house,” book 2 in my second civil war alternate history, is now available on amazon.

  here’s the back cover:.

  the war of 1910, and the government scandals it exposed, shattered american confidence and trust in their government.

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  Phizzy

  I wish you well with what looks to me to be a fascinating and believable Plot. I am someone who has started writing two or three novels, only to give up, out of laziness really, and pressures of life to a lesser degree.

  I had to temporarily abandon my last attempt, as Real Life overtook it ! the basis was Russian interference in European and American Politics, sadly, this idea proved to be prescient, so I am going to have to re-work the Plot. Life imitating Art indeed !
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  Witness reaching out to me after 20+ years...

  by SouthCentral in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few weeks ago; a witness couple from the midwest reached out to me after 25+ years.

  they said they were doing a letter writing campaign and decided to reach out to me… they called on my personal cell phone, which was a little surprising.

  a few days ago, a couple that i knew from over 40 years ago, sent me a text, again to my personal cell phone.. i assume that they just googled my name to get the personal info.

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  Phizzy

  Ha Ha ! they won't try with me, because I have loudly made my position known, as one Elder said to me a while ago " You have drawn a line ". I also know that they had been warned long ago not to call on me, because as one "Sister" told me an Elder had told her that I would " destroy her faith" !! How fragile their faith must be, if old Phizzy can destroy it that easily.

  The danger with this campaign, as Stan Livedeath pointed out, is that old Phizzy is far from unique, so many of us who have left are well equipped to "Destroy their faith", and even our dear friends who may not feel so well equipped can, with a well chosen word or two, explode their bubble.

  So, may this, like previous campaigns, backfire on JW Org, because they have a bloody cheek encouraging the R&F Drone JW's to disturb our peace !
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  The "Messiah"

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i will appreciate corrections and criticisms of my draft notes on the subject of "messiah".. it will not surprise anyone that the material is not simplistic nor emotive.. https://jwstudies.com/messiahs_emerged__preliminary_draft_.pdf.

  thanks,.

  doug.

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  Phizzy

  I look forward to reading the Work when it is complete.

  A couple of things particularly interest me, one is that the Qumran community expected two "Messiahs", and I think two are hinted at in the Canonical Book of Daniel ?? If one is the High Priest of around Daniels time of writing, 164 BCE, is the other future ?

  The other point of interest is that Chrystos is a proper name in the 1st Century, so, is the Chrystos mentioned in Josephus therefore without doubt Jesus of Nazareth, or could he be some other person ?
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  IICSA hearings resume next week

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa) will hold additional virtual public hearings in the child protection in religious organisations and settings investigation next week.. the timetable was released today: https://www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/20825/view/virtual-cpiros-timetable-week-3-10-august-2020.pdf .

  five witnesses will testify on the jw issue next monday and tuesday, 10 and 11 august:.

  - pr-a5, a victim abused by ministerial servant peter stewart;.

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  Phizzy

  Right at the end Gillies is asked if he attended a seminar in 2017 about destroying JW Org Documents and Records, headed by one Shaun Bartlett.

  Gillies all of a sudden cannot recall, yet throughout his Testimony his art of recall has been excellent, quoting document numbers etc with ease, but he cannot recall this Seminar in 2017 ?

  Gillies is The Slippery Snake indeed !
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  "Burnt remains from 586 BCE Jerusalem may hold key to protecting planet."

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "a new analysis of 1st temple-era artifacts, magnetized when babylonians torched the city, provides a way to chart the geomagnetic field – physics’ holy grail – and maybe save earth".

  https://www.timesofisrael.com/burnt-remains-of-586-bce-destruction-of-jerusalem-help-map-physics-holy-grail/?utm_source=the+daily+edition&utm_campaign=daily-edition-2020-08-09&utm_medium=email#comments.

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  Phizzy

  " took place on Tisha B’Av. “I don’t know of anyone who doubts the historicity of the event,” said Vaknin. However, even gaining “surety to the month, and even to the year is very rare” when speaking of events that took place 2,600 years ago, said Vaknin " . (586BCE).

  We know of a Group who would dispute Tish B'Av, 586 BCE. Don't we ?? LOL.

  The saddest day of the Jewish year, not one that the Jews would get wrong is it ?
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  IICSA hearings resume next week

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa) will hold additional virtual public hearings in the child protection in religious organisations and settings investigation next week.. the timetable was released today: https://www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/20825/view/virtual-cpiros-timetable-week-3-10-august-2020.pdf .

  five witnesses will testify on the jw issue next monday and tuesday, 10 and 11 august:.

  - pr-a5, a victim abused by ministerial servant peter stewart;.

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  Phizzy

  Just bumping this thread for anyone who may wish to listen in, especially to that slippery snake Paul Gillies, watch the clever way he will lie, but not in a way that can be called perjury !

  He is there , giving evidence, to get the JW org off the hook as far as paying Compensation goes.
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  Brushed under the carpet for 30 years

  by Fadeaway1962 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/north-staffordshire-sex-beast-finally-4401250 .

  brushed under the carpet for 30 years, .

  hope the iicsa are made aware of this for monday..

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  Phizzy

  "Victims of sexual offences should come forward, no matter how long the passage of time, and tell police what happened. They will be listened to.”

  The above is something that needs publicising, some Victims may not be aware that there is now no limit on time.