Posts by Phizzy

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Do You Know Of Anyone That Has Seen A Therapist Because Of Being A Witness?

by minimus in

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i really don’t know of many people who got into therapy because of their jw dealings but i would think that if someone remains depressed or severely affected by their past witness life, it’s not a bad idea to speak to someone to get you on the right path.

i think this site has been very therapeutic for many over the years..

Phizzy

I too consulted a Therapist/Psychologist , if I hadn't I would not be here. The Cult life had left me severely depressed to the point of suicide. I would have killed myself without doubt had I not had the help of an understanding Therapist who knew how to treat people like XJW's .

Sadly some people who set up as Therapists are not very qualified, or they do not understand the Cult experience, but fortunately mine had a string of Letters after her name and was skilled, and had previously treated a number of XJW's.

If you need help get it, and I hope you find someone able to help you live your life to the full and be happy. We deserve that.

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Most of you KNOW it that we witnesses have the Truth from the Bible

by TruthMatters in

it just that the gb has a problem mixing biblical fact with goofy opinions.. but at least is isn't like the churces!.

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Phizzy

Thank you Simon, what a waste of space that person was ! and the Pure Irony of the username chosen ! whoever it was had zero interest in Truth !

As soon as personal insults began to spill out from the Twat, it was obvious she/he was not here to debate. There are too many ignorant Trolls elsewhere on the Internet, without cluttering up this place.

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Do local JWs want in-person meetings back in your congregation?

by JWTom in

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i realize many here think that in-person meetings will return as soon as things are safe with covid.

but many acknowledge it will likely be 2022 or later when this happens.. surprisingly, many pimi jws in our congregation are not shy about saying they are fine with zoom meetings forever and do not want to go back to in-person meetings.

many speculate similar thoughts that are on this site....such as a combination of in-person and zoom meetings.

Phizzy

I think they will gradually go entirely on-line, and then sell off all the remaining buildings.

Then they will shrink in numbers year on year, until the last J.W in a Care Home looks wistfully out of a window and wonders why the Paradise Earth has not come yet, having wasted all of her or his life on a Scam posing as a religion.

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Most of you KNOW it that we witnesses have the Truth from the Bible

by TruthMatters in

it just that the gb has a problem mixing biblical fact with goofy opinions.. but at least is isn't like the churces!.

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Phizzy

" welcome to the site TruthMatters--I hope you stick around."

I agree Stan ! we haven't had a JW Apologist of any stripe on here for a long time !

I remember when I first joined the heavy hitters on here were able to quickly demolish all the claims, and it was so affirming to me that JW Org were a scam, not a religion.

As to "truth form the Bible", that Book has been totally discredited as a source of truth long ago.

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Jewish Hatred Is Nothing New

by minimus in

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jews have been vilified for centuries!

they were nomads looking for the promised land.

they have been nearly exterminated and yet they are still in the middle east as well as a brotherhood throughout the world.

Phizzy

" Wasn't it the Italians? "

Yes ! of course it was, only they could administer Capital Punishment, which is your point I guess Simon.

The Gospel story of some religious Jews provoking the Roman Governor to execute him is no doubt total Fiction, and maybe was concocted to further counter the remaining influence of Jewish religious thought upon Christianity.

Sadly this evil bit of Fiction has provoked many murders and much evil persecution by "Christians" over the Centuries, when really the "guilty" ones were the ancestors of today's Garlic Smelling Pizza-munchers.(< I'm Joking !).

Of course, to persecute my Italian friends and relatives for something done by a Roman Governor and his soldiers 2000 years ago, none of whom may actually have been Italian ! would be ignorant, stupid and thoroughly evil. As is all Racism.

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Constantine

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

the fact that the majority of the world jumps when you say 'god' is traced back to one guy.

constantine, this is the one man that made christianity the official religion rome thus masking the beliefs of people until the reformation a literal hell.. oh yes mohamed knew his teaching later.. when you say 'god' as if other people are supposed to be impressed you owe that to constantine.

not a mythical figure named jesus, .

Phizzy

You are correct Rivergang, with the Edict of Milan Constantine made it safe to be a Christian, or of any other religion !

Theodosius later made Christianity the Religion of choice of the Empire. He was a Christian, and believed the Trinity to be an accurate Doctrine, so that became part of the orthodoxy he imposed.

He seemed tolerant of other religions existence, but did not encourage them ! For that reason from his time on it was expedient for people to appear to be Christian, hence at the remains of a Roman Villa near where I live we have the wealthy owner's Christian Chapel boldly displayed as part of the Villa, but by a stairway, well hidden no doubt, you could go down to a Temple below the Chapel that was used to worship Mithras in secret. Fascinating !

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As An ExJW or Fader What Do You Believe In?

by minimus in

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god?

jehovah?

science?

Phizzy

What do you mean by " believe" min ? When a lot of people use that word, they are referring to trusting that something is true, without evidence. Hence they may "believe" in god.

When it comes to Science, that kind of "belief" is not necessary, Science proves what is true with satisfactory, tested, peer reviewed evidence, no " belief" is necessary.

I will not trust that something is true without the kind of evidence demanded by Science, hence I do not believe in god.

Do I believe in myself ? again, I ask, what exactly do you mean by that ? I believe I exist, I believe I can trust myself to be true to the principles I wish to live my life by etc etc. But is that what you mean ?

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Jewish Hatred Is Nothing New

by minimus in

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jews have been vilified for centuries!

they were nomads looking for the promised land.

they have been nearly exterminated and yet they are still in the middle east as well as a brotherhood throughout the world.

Phizzy

Hatred of any Nationality, Ethnic or Religious Group as a whole is wrong. Yes we can Hate what certain Nations do, or rather their Governments do, but that is not the whole Nation, we can hate the evil done by some religious people, or some people of certain origins, but again to condemn all people who fall in that category is supremely ignorant and wrong.

The Jewish people were a natural target over the Centuries for a number of spurious reasons, not for any valid ones. To perpetuate that, and similar ignorant hatreds, is to not learn from History, and to be, as Simon says earlier, " A Racist Retard".

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Non Believers, how do you respond ?

by Phizzy in

i recently had this in a message from a jw, a lovely person, but mind controlled, he wrote " a life without hope is no life for me".. how should i respond to that ?

i am an atheist, but want to respond in as kindly a way as possible.. i was thinking along the lies of saying i got no comfort from what i knew to be false hope, but need to say it in a kindly way.. ideas please ?.

Phizzy

I recently had this in a message from a JW, a lovely person, but mind controlled, he wrote " A life without hope is no life for me".

How should I respond to that ? I am an Atheist, but want to respond in as kindly a way as possible.

I was thinking along the lies of saying I got no comfort from what I knew to be False Hope, but need to say it in a kindly way.

Ideas please ?

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Constantine

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

the fact that the majority of the world jumps when you say 'god' is traced back to one guy.

constantine, this is the one man that made christianity the official religion rome thus masking the beliefs of people until the reformation a literal hell.. oh yes mohamed knew his teaching later.. when you say 'god' as if other people are supposed to be impressed you owe that to constantine.

not a mythical figure named jesus, .

Phizzy

Yes, you have your work cut out as soon as you get to the 1st Century for sure. Although as with a lot of this, we cannot be categorically sure as to what happened, and who wrote what, etc we can say with assurance that things were not as most people viewed them up until the Enlightenment, and as some still do, that the Bible is inspired and accurate for a start, and written by who it says it is etc etc

The other big myth, perpetuated by other religions as well as JW's, is that there was one Pure Church which sprang up after the death of Jesus.

That is far from reality, there were a good number of different groups that claimed Jesus in some way, all teaching different things, the Bible itself tells us this. Even what we call "Pauline Christianity" is an amalgam of teachings, some from Paul and some adapted after his death by writers pretending to be Paul.

Then we have the intervening mess of battling ideas that was sorted by Constantine because he had the power to do so. Many things were not fully sorted, the Trinity debate continues, the ideas as what is "Canonical" and what should not be included as Scripture goes on too.

If the Christianity of today were claiming to be a valuable antique Vase for example, the experts would say " This Vase has no Provenance".