" stating they are not giving medical advice, just information to help individuals make their own decisions. "
That Rider has been added so they cannot be sued and have to pay compensation, when their murderous, unscriptural advice is followed,
Posts by Phizzy
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7No Blood Policy and some repercussions
by Listener inthank you atlantis for the emails that you send out to so many of us.
in one email that i received dated 21st october was a jw document title "information for patients requiring chemotherapy or surgery".
the organization never ceases to shock and i was disgusted with the information included in this document because it leads to their followers not getting the best medical care, not just because of their no blood policy but because of the other repercussions which they highlight in this information guide.. they begin by stating they are not giving medical advice, just information to help individuals make their own decisions.. point 7 states.
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Noah + new understanding
by dothemath inso they mentioned noah couldn’t have preached to all the population back before the flood.
do you think they might start using common sense regarding not being able to get every animal type on the ark from the whole world?.
maybe the poor sloth from south america didn’t have to crawl all the way?
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Phizzy
The Flood Story is plainly an Interpolation in Genesis, and is based upon an earlier Pagan mythic Fable we find in the Epic of Gilgamesh, and goes right back to ancient Sumer of 7,000 years ago, and may be an even older Myth, but as writing was invented in Sumer, it is the earliest example of it that we have.
The Genesis version takes many features exactly, word for word in some instances, and in the same order, as we find them in the earlier versions of the Fable.
The Joker who got it in to Genesis would laugh his socks off, if he returned today and saw how J.W's and others view it.
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Phizzy
Absolutely sickening.
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Confirmation that religion is dying.
by Phizzy inthis is from a site called "atheist republic" :.
" the phenomenon of "nones" — individuals who claim no religious affiliation — is rapidly reshaping america's religious landscape.
recent surveys by the associated press-norc center for public affairs research indicate that 30% of u.s. adults identify as nonreligious.
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Phizzy
"Christian Values" is a nebulous term, like "British Values", both much beloved by Politicians and others, because it SOUNDS as though they have a working Moral Compass.
"Woke" was used by people as an epithet, like "Snowflake" or similar, as the great Kathy Burke said : "I'd rather be Woke than a f***ing Twat !".
I think many of the "Nones" wish to retain what they see as good moral values, which they imagine are derived from some religious source, and most retain some kind of "belief", but Organised religion is as I said moribund, the J.W org. more than others. Good !
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Thought on “0 hours” reporting
by FFGhost inso everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
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Phizzy
" …I miss any? ", not really, but my post just back a page expands on your "bad shit...." comment, as always with the Org, follow the $$$.
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Thought on “0 hours” reporting
by FFGhost inso everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
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Phizzy
I haven't the time to go back overt the thread, sorry, and this point has been made I'm sure, but the point is, when the Borg makes a move, especially an unexpected one, it is always to do with the $$$.
This move gives the Org. a much stronger argument that they do not have Agency (in legalese) over individual J.W's in Abuse cases, then they will not have to pay compensation. I think that is the prime motivator for this move.
The Org. cares no more for individual members than Hamas does, and cares even less for the poor Victims of Abuse.
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Confirmation that religion is dying.
by Phizzy inthis is from a site called "atheist republic" :.
" the phenomenon of "nones" — individuals who claim no religious affiliation — is rapidly reshaping america's religious landscape.
recent surveys by the associated press-norc center for public affairs research indicate that 30% of u.s. adults identify as nonreligious.
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Phizzy
My comment above about the eventual decline of organised religion, did not mean a decline in Belief, to a huge degree, and was looking probably decades into the future.
Islam increases its numbers mainly by producing children, not a great number convert, people, just a few ,are leaving Islam here in the U.K, and parts of Europe, but of course, it is a harder thing to do than leaving the J.W's.
Sadly some may be further entrenched by the events of the recent war.
But, organised religion is moribund, and that is a good thing, it has far too much influence Politically throughout the World, and religions are the wombs that give birth to most Terrorists.
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Confirmation that religion is dying.
by Phizzy inthis is from a site called "atheist republic" :.
" the phenomenon of "nones" — individuals who claim no religious affiliation — is rapidly reshaping america's religious landscape.
recent surveys by the associated press-norc center for public affairs research indicate that 30% of u.s. adults identify as nonreligious.
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Phizzy
Absolutely Jan, but we do see the same thing happening in the U.K and most of Europe too, the rest of the World is a different story, so far.
But with the spread of proper in-depth education, I do feel more and more people will not feel the need for Organised religion, individual faith will remain, and maybe small house Churches, as we have in our area here in Kent U.K, non-denominational.
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My conclusion on the matter
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inafter being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.
i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.
but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.
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Phizzy
Cofty is nobly trying to get us to appreciate what we DO know,
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Jehovah's Witness' bid to be excluded from abuse inquiry dismissed
by Tahoe inlink to article.
a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church to get out of being part of the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the high court in wellington.. after nearly three years of behind-the-scenes legal wrangling to avoid scrutiny from the inquiry, the church applied for a judicial review in june.. at a hearing, held earlier this month it argued it was beyond the inquiry's scope because it did not operate institutions that cared for children or vulnerable people and the inquiry had uncovered no evidence of abuse in that context.. lawyers representing the inquiry argued that jehovah's witness elders - equivalent to ministers or pastors - exercised a level of control over the congregation that allowed them access to children.. the inquiry informed abuse survivors who gave evidence to the inquiry in relation to the jehovah's witnesses of the news this afternoon.. "we have received advice from the high court that none of the causes of action brought by the jehovah's witnesses has succeeded and the application for judicial review has been dismissed.
the judge's reasons are not yet available, but are expected in the near future," the email to survivors, seen by rnz, said.. the church was the only faith-based institution in the country to legally challenge its involvement in the inquiry, although it had attempted to challenge its status in other countries where similar inquiries have also been carried out.. the inquiry said, in a statement, that the dismissal "means the royal commission can continue to investigate the jehovah's witnesses, and all other faiths, in accordance with the pastoral care approach we have been applying since 2019".. "reasons for the high court's judgment are not yet available but are expected in the near future.
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Phizzy
" The only way the Borg can sustain longevity is from its own birthrate "
Very true, but the demographic suggests that birthrate must be falling !
I hope this will dissuade even more young people to leave, and fewer to join.
Thanks for Posting this great News Tahoe, I shall await the full transcript of the Judge's remarks on the decision, and I hope to see the Summary of Findings by the R.C. before too long too !