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  Regional convention

  by sove in

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  2. friends

  hi guys.

  so this weekend the 2025 regional convention starts.

  anyone who has access to the recorded versions or a streaming link?

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  Phizzy

  I went to my last Convention in 2006, I had partially woken up then, and decided for the same reason as you Tonus , that the numb-bum and total boredom was not worth the effort, ever again.

  The funny thing was, nobody noticed we were not there ! family and fellow J.W's just assumed we were, and hadn't seen us. We had not missed a convention for all our lives previously.

  In 2007, I woke up fully to the the fact that J.W teaching and unique Doctrines were all false, and left for good on the 23rd March 2008. I walked out of the K.H, looked back at it knowing I would never go back, but with some regret, as I was leaving life-long friends, and my family were all in.

  But I could no longer be part of a religion that taught Lies as Truth.
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  Federal Investigation into JW procedures

  by kenmayo1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.investigatewest.org/investigatewest-reports/wa-law-mandating-clergy-report-child-abuse-to-be-investigated-by-trumps-justice-department-17882445.

  investigatewest.

  wa law mandating clergy report child abuse to be investigated by tr.... .

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  Phizzy

  " clergy penitent privilege " does not exist in Law in the U.K, where a Criminal Act is concerned, and has not done so since the Reformation.

  Even where it does, it is Morally Wrong not to Report a Crime STARAIGHT AWAY to all the appropriate Authorities and Bodies who are trained and skilled in how to deal with the situation, the Elders are NOT !
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  Did the WT Policy on Lying Bother You When You Were a JW?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's the wt standard for lying: "while malicious lying is definitely condemned in the bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it" - insight pp.

  244-245. vs. websters dictionary:.

  lie, noun.

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  Phizzy

  I was most disturbed by this concept and method when I was a fully believing and active J.W.

  I felt that telling Lies was wrong in all situations, except where telling the truth endangered someone who did not deserve to be endangered.

  But I did use the method prescribed by Jesus in the Gospels , of not casting my "Pearls before Swine."
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  bomb for jehova italy

  by andr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  italy meets another bomb in front of the kingdom hall, after having caused a scandal on tv, now it is also dangerous to go to the hall.

  here is the image of the press release.

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  Phizzy

  From the Article from the Org. which works for Freedom of belief,

  "Our goal remains to prevent hate crimes starting with countering hate speech through correct information and objective knowledge of the phenomenon."

  I agree with that worthy aim, and obviously violent acts are always wrong, nothing good comes from Violence, nothing ever could.

  All Countries need to have Laws which heavily punish the publication of Hate Speech.

  Freedom of Speech should never allow that. The CEO's etc. of any Platform that publishes Hate Speech, as well as individuals, should face huge Fines and possible Imprisonment.

  But it may be revealing to find out the motivation of the perpetrator, or perhaps not, some people just go slightly crazy when Hate Speech gets through to their tiny minds.
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  Ezra...Son of God.

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  briefly said, the various/diverse ancient stories present ezra as directed by a persian king to establish religious/national law and order in judea.

  he is said to have re-introduced the locals and returnees to the law of moses.

  he and five others present this law to the people with mixed and brutal results.

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  Phizzy

  Liverani does an interesting job of reconstructing the literary methods used by Ezra & Co. and shows why and how they wrote what they did, it is quite an eye-opener !

  Professor Liverani is an Italian Historian and Professor of Ancient near East History History at the University of Rome Sapienza. A member of many related institutions etc. and well respected.

  As "Sapienza" suggests, he has the learning and experience, I am presuming he has the Wisdom to have drawn correct conclusions ! (?).

  But re-writing the Torah obviously occurred !
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  Ezra...Son of God.

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  briefly said, the various/diverse ancient stories present ezra as directed by a persian king to establish religious/national law and order in judea.

  he is said to have re-introduced the locals and returnees to the law of moses.

  he and five others present this law to the people with mixed and brutal results.

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  Phizzy

  Thanks PP, yet again you have provided me with good reason to investigate something I was not aware of, and to give the subject some thought.

  The ideas you have put my way are not a million miles away from what Professor Liverani says in the Book below, which IIRC, it is a while since I read it, says that most of what Ezra & Co wrote was constructed from "whole cloth" , it seems as though it may be more than just "most" of it when we come to the Jewish Torah !

  
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  Recently UK KH Up For Sale

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently refurbished uk kh recently refurbished up for sale, tentative 500,000 pounds!https://uk.news.yahoo.com/former-jehovahs-witness-hall-conversion-040000931.html .

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  Phizzy

  I wonder if the Org's property scam is somewhat coming to an end ? have they almost run out of K.H's to sell ? Or will they sell a few more, and schedule Meetings for even more times in a day ? Holding Evening Meetings on a Sunday for some ?

  How popular would THAT be ! LOL

  But they could cram yet another congregation in to some far distant K.H.
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  Recently UK KH Up For Sale

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently refurbished uk kh recently refurbished up for sale, tentative 500,000 pounds!https://uk.news.yahoo.com/former-jehovahs-witness-hall-conversion-040000931.html .

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  Phizzy

  Thanks Blondie !

  I love to hear this kind of news, the org. is contracting, and has been for a good few years. This K.H has been out of use since 2021 ! And Hereford is not a small place, no doubt other K.H's are available for J.W's to use, and have been since 2021, but I bet the former users have to travel further !

  Of course the Org. did not hurry to sell this place by making it in to something with Apartments that people actually want to live in, and they would have car parking. No, the Org. was and is still hanging out for the maximum price.

  The silly thing is the Council suggested 3 x 3 bed. Apartments, these sell for £200,000 or more in Hereford.
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  The Watchtower's Distortion of Proverbs 11:9: Replacing 'Godless' with 'Apostate'

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from this week's life & ministry:.

  in proverbs 11:9, the new world translation reads:.

  "by his mouth the apostate brings his neighbor to ruin, but by knowledge the righteous are rescued.".

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  Phizzy

  " The term often implies a turning away from the covenantal relationship with God, leading to a state of defilement or apostasy."

  Strong's use of the word apostasy right at the end of the definition of the Hebrew word is fine, it is using the word for someone who has "turned aside" from practicing the Righteous Life expected of a worshipper of Yahweh/Jehovah.

  But it is obvious why the Org. has chosen that word, as it is a Trigger Word for J.W's, to prompt them to Shun anyone who has left the Org. for whatever reason, not something Jesus did in the case of people in his day, who were rightly thought of as "apostates" because of being sinners. Jesus sat with them, ate meals with them, and lovingly tried to correct them.

  Now you will be hauled in front of the Elders if you did what Jesus did, and had a meal with such people, who Jesus extended love to.
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  2025*Memorial*Talk*Outline*in*English*and*in*German!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2025-memorial*talk*outline*in*english*and*german.

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  https://app.filemail.com/d/aekacaizpavjodx .

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  Phizzy

  Thanks, just a glance showed me they are still totting out all the old claptrap and nonsense, from things like Adam being the first man, to their usual "explanation" of what the "Lord's Evening Meal" should be and why.

  I wonder what anew convert to the J.W's thinks of this when they first hear it ? With the fairly well educated it must jar, and cause cognitive dissonance to build.

  But obviously, the Org. does not want even the fairly well-educated to remain as members.

  Thank you, and any others involved, again, for your efforts in providing us with actual Documents.