Posts by tornapart

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Revelation Climax book - what are the most ridiculous claims in it?

by RayPublisher in

i got to thinking about all the strange interpretations in the old revelation climax book now that i have perused it again on pdf.

(thanks atlantis!).

does anyone care to toss in their two cents on what are the most outrageous and/or ridiculous claims in it?.

tornapart

I remember walking down the road with my hubby after one book group several years ago (before I 'woke up') and said that if I have to sit through anymore of that 1914-1918 stuff and have one more reference to the 'Cedar Point' convention, that I'd never go to another book study, that it was just plain ridiculous and how do they expect us to believe all that stuff... I must have been waking up even back then LOL

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Tech 49: the 3 F's...Fading, Field Service, and Friends

by Tech49 in

here we are, the family and i, moving along in our slow journey to freedom.

although they are unaware, for the most part, our ship is slowly veering off course.

not enough to cause attention, not enough to trigger alarm bells, but just enough.. since the summer dc, i have watched carefully, as the new releases remain on the coffee table, in plain sight, not touched, more of a decoration that anything.

tornapart

I sometimes wonder if they do know exactly what is happening but either refuse to acknowledge it because they don't want to rock the boat or they wish they could do the same thing as you and don't want to interfere in your life. They can see you're happy so why worry about you? There again they may have so many problems to deal with in their own life that they don't have time to think about anyone else's.

It's going much the same way for me. People ask hubby how I am sometimes but it seems no one has a clue as to what is really happening, or if they do they're not bothered about it. I'm happy about it because it makes it a lot easier for me. My friend is feeling much the same way as your wife, she has said to me that she wants her and I to leave the meeting together as soon as it finishes (during the CO's visit... our husbands are both elders) so we don't get nabbed by the CO's wife for FS. Sounds good to me..I told her I don't do first call anymore anyway, only my return visits that I just pass the time of day with and leave the magazines that they like to read (and have done for years). She told me she was irregular for the first time last month and couldn't care less. I reckon everyone is just getting tired of it all.

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Need Help - Looks like some one in my family got to know that we are fading...

by MissConfused in

letter from a close family member... need help responding.... what a powerful illustration of the affect that our choice of friends can have on us, especially if we leave jehovah after being 'raised' by him from infancy!.

pack of wolvesthere was a farmer who raised sheep and had trouble with wolves stealing his sheep.

he loved his sheep and didn't want to lose even one of them.

tornapart

Get them to watch this series... it uses the 'wolf amongst the sheep' illustration to a much better effect:-

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL37AEF7630FDDBEA7

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Sense of Mortality, Existential Angst and Leaving the Borg

by Frazzled UBM in

firstly apologies if i am stating the bleeding obvious or covering something that has already been covered or just showing my ignorance as someone who wasnever a jw - i am new here and relatively new in my exposure to the wbts organisation and its dogma.

the thing that has occurred to me is that born-in jws and middle-age jws must avoid the teenage existential angst of really getting a sense of their own mortaility and the middle age crisis of realizing that their best years are behind and they on the long downhill slide, because they expect to live forever.

i always wondered why teenage jws are goody two-shoes while they are believers and often go off the rails, even as 20 or 30 something adults, when they wake up and i figure that, apart from the fact that they are no longer being told what is right and wrong and all of a sudden have to work it out for themselves, this may related to the expectation that you will not physically die.

tornapart

Well, I'm a middle-aged born in and it's taken me 2 years to come to some feeling of being somewhat settled. Although I still have moments of anger and frustration. What frustrates me more than anything is my family's and friend's inability to see anything wrong with it all as well. I've had to come to terms with the fact that they just can't see it and I have to accept it. I still want relationships with them so I carry on to keep them happy. However, I carry on in my own way and if they don't like it then it's just too bad. If I have to accept them then they have to accept me too.

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Something odd just happened when I logged on!

by tornapart in

i typed in my name, password and the captcha, expecting to see my name come up in the top right corner and what i actually saw was someone else's name!

(the name was another member of this board).

i looked at it for a few seconds feeling a bit puzzled and not sure what to do about it and as i looked it automatically changed (whithout me doing anything) back to my own name.. has anyone else had this happen to them?

tornapart

Bangalore.. I was just thinking the same thing... LOL (after the initial surprise) Thanks for explaining it Simon..

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Well I gotta go......

by punkofnice in

jw
friends

...i might drop in every now and then but i hope you all enjoy life, escape the watchtower(r) and live prosperous lives.. i can't say i contribute much here anyway (and i'm not attention seeking).. i'm just going to get on with life away from the constant reminder of the mistakes i made being a jw zombie drone.. i guess i'm just going to fade.......rather quickly.. of course i didn't need to make any posts here to disappear but i thought it'd be polite and very british to bid you all a fond farewell.. see you all sometime.....maybe.....maybe not.....maybe....... bye!.

ps.

don't pm me as i won't be checking the pms.. .

tornapart

Have a great life Punk!

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Something odd just happened when I logged on!

by tornapart in

i typed in my name, password and the captcha, expecting to see my name come up in the top right corner and what i actually saw was someone else's name!

(the name was another member of this board).

i looked at it for a few seconds feeling a bit puzzled and not sure what to do about it and as i looked it automatically changed (whithout me doing anything) back to my own name.. has anyone else had this happen to them?

tornapart

Now I'm 'AnnOMaly'... hahah Think we can have some fun with this...

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Something odd just happened when I logged on!

by tornapart in

i typed in my name, password and the captcha, expecting to see my name come up in the top right corner and what i actually saw was someone else's name!

(the name was another member of this board).

i looked at it for a few seconds feeling a bit puzzled and not sure what to do about it and as i looked it automatically changed (whithout me doing anything) back to my own name.. has anyone else had this happen to them?

tornapart

Oh... right.... I just posted, clicked active topics and turned into 'tredescu'....

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Something odd just happened when I logged on!

by tornapart in

i typed in my name, password and the captcha, expecting to see my name come up in the top right corner and what i actually saw was someone else's name!

(the name was another member of this board).

i looked at it for a few seconds feeling a bit puzzled and not sure what to do about it and as i looked it automatically changed (whithout me doing anything) back to my own name.. has anyone else had this happen to them?

tornapart

I only had it happen the once I was 'transhuman68'... LOL

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Imitate Their Faith - Reference & Comments

by Bobcat in

this thread is similarly purposed to this one on the jeremiah book.. i intend it as a source for material and comments relating to the new imitate their faith book that came out at the 2013 wt district convention.. eventually, the book is going to be studied at the congregation book study.

(the book itself says so.

see the letter from the governing body, par.

tornapart

Thanks for starting this Bobcat. We've got the new book at home and I intend to read it. These days I can never read any WT publication without questioning it or reading between the lines. There may be some interesting things in it but nothing they write can be taken at face value.

At least I can tell all my JW family (who know of my doubts) that I've read it. I've always been a reader and especially of history. I read the proclaimers book from cover to cover and felt quite shocked and surprised at the time, of all the WT history. Maybe that was the beginning of my 'awakening' so to speak. Not many JWs have read it all the way through. They should.