Don't bother about it. What gives them the right to say what you can and can't do with your life? It's YOUR life and you can do with it whatever you choose to do. Why worry about what other people think?
tornapart
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Any elders out there? How to Local needs talks work?
by Letts Party inso a local needs talk was lovingly given at our hall last week that i'm positive targeted me specifically.
it had to do with missing meetings for work.
they even had a demo on what we should do if our boss asks us to stay overtime on a meeting night (basically say "no" and risk losing your great job which you have no desire whatsoever to lose)... so i'm aware that there's a sort of protocol the elders follow when someone in the hall needs to work on something.
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Understanding our CURE from ADDICTION to the Watchtower cult.
by Fernando inwould it be fair to say many of the posts on jwn are in essence about this?.
if we could better understand what worked for us, would we be better able to help others?.
where do basic human needs ("met" by the cult) end, and where does addiction start?.
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tornapart
This is a tough one for me. I'm a born-in, all my family are in and my closest friends (thankfully they know how I feel and about my doubts and love me anyway). So although I'd be happy to give it all up, it's impossible. This is their life and makes them who they are. Does that make me addicted? I don't think so.... but I need THEM. It's a crazy place to be and as it's a part of their life, the ones I love, it has to stay a part of mine. I hate the doctrines, the control, the influence and can see right through the BS but these are people I love and it's important to them. So where does that leave me?
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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tornapart
They are Pharisees.... just like the ones Jesus condemned.
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BU2B comments on "Are you convinced you have the truth? Why?" WT article.
by BU2B ini want to start doing a wt review on certain articles.
i think we need as much discussion as possible breaking down these mind control sessions.
i cannot compare with blondie, but i will do my best.
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tornapart
My hubby told me I should read it, just before he left for the meeting. Well, I had a quick scan and a read of your review BU2B (excellent), now I need to be able to refute it all without making him angry...
I've already used the angle of 'what about the religions that feed the poor' (like the salvation army). No religion gets it all right. What about the preaching work? It's true they do the preaching work as Jesus told his followers to do but what's the point when you're teaching something he didn't tell us to? That's when the drawbridge goes up....
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THE CULT STRIKES AGAIN!!!
by DATA-DOG init's amazing what you perceive, once you know ttatt.
today's wt mind-control session was an amazing example of cult mind control techniques in action!!
the program was about hearing jeehoobies voice!
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tornapart
I was there as well today DD and I read it the same way as you. What made me wince too was when they did that paragraph about Korah and Moses, they included Aaron in with Moses.. what goes straight over their heads is that while Moses was away up the mountain getting the laws his brother Aaron was happily complying with what the people wanted... making a golden calf.
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HELP! Elder bombarded me with scripture...& I don't know what to do.
by Smoky ini have been lurking on this site for many years.
i rarely post anything, because my english isnt the best and not sure if anyone understands.
i just recently had a run in with an elder, have not seen him in a few years.
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tornapart
Tell them it's your life and you will do with it whatever you want. God gave you a free will and does not want you to be a robot (even if you no longer believe in God, he does). You don't wish to be rude but you are happy with your life as it is, thankyou very much.
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Coping whilst stuck in the org.
by crazyhorse ini recently learned ttatt and it really sickens me when i sit through the meetings.
i am so tired of faking things.
i feel like vomiting when annoying things are said from the platform.
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tornapart
I've just gradually let go of everything. I go out 1 hour FS a month to keep under the radar (they are RVs I've had for years that are going nowhere). I go to a meeting maybe once a month just to show my face and keep in touch with the few I like. Family have just got used to it now. They know how I feel which makes it easier. The elders and CO know I have my 'doubts' but that I don't want to talk about it. All in all I've found a relatively comfortable place to be under the circumstances.
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Sipping our drinks at the track..part 2.". I didnt tell them anything," she said
by MissFit in...as we were enjoying our weekly sunday "no meetings margaritas.. my friend and i have been meeting for lunch and margaritas ( okay mostly margaritas, we throw lunch in so we dont feel like alcoholics lol ??).
instead of going to meetings.. ( we discovered we could have lunch*margaritas* without the meeting first.).
my jw lady friend still goes out "in service" and stays in touch with her "service buddies" who also know me.. so she was telling me that they asked about me and mentioned that they would like to stop by to see me.
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tornapart
Missfit, your friend sounds like an adorable lady. I knew an old lady like this. She became a JW later in life. She lived on her own and loved entertaining. Always younger ones, never those her own age. We were young enough (at the time) to be her grand children. We loved her. Young at heart she was. Never went anywhere without her high heel shoes.
As she got older she went into a retirement home far from us and we missed her. It was near to where she was brought up as a child. One year we went on holiday there and looked her up. While hubby went climbing the neaby mountains. I took her along with my children for a drive in the countryside. We went past all her old haunts and she thought it was wonderful and told me all her stories as a child. We stopped at a countryside inn and sat outside in the sun overlooking a river and had some lunch. It was a time I will never forget. She was a wonderful old lady and I still think of her with a deep fondness.
Treasure a friendship like this!
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I loathe authority
by punkofnice innow i'm not preaching hatred here i am just expressing how i've felt for years even when i was a jw.. i totally loathe the police/policticians...any authority......anyone that is over anyone else.
i have a total hatred of them all.
i wonder if it's because i was raised a jw?.
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tornapart
Me too Punkie!! Hubby always used to call me a rebel long before I realised the big delusion. Now I just couldn't care less about any of it. Authority of any kind is just there to take away the free will of another fellow human.
Of course some authority is necessary to keep peace and protect us from crime but authority is always abused. And religious authority... well... no-one tells me what I should and shouldn't believe!
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A rose by any other name..............
by sparrowdown ini'm curious, why and how did you choose your username?.
does it hold any special significance for you, is there a share-able back story?.
for me sparrowdown is a playful reference to matt 10:29 and the title of the movie black hawk down.. matt 10:29 was my go-to scrip to "prove" that god cares about us as individuals.
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tornapart
I chose my name because that's how I felt at the time. I had finished reading Ray Franz's books and felt torn apart with learning TTATT. Now? I could do with a new name but I wouldn't know what to choose and anyway, I'm known by that one now.