hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.
http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.
although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.
I'm a regular reader of the site and it has helped me enormously. I still have to attend for family's sake and their articles have helped me to be able to refute a lot of what family members say without coming across to them as 'apostate'. It's a great site for JWs still in but who are just awakening and who are beginning to question things.
It's great for those of us who are still 'in' but who disagree with a lot of the doctrines and policies but who still have a love of God and the bible.
for those of you who have already faded due to family still being in, have you noticed how the noose is tightening?.
if it's not memorial, it's special day assembly.
if it's not that, it's convention or the special talk.
I must admit the business about the blood card has bothered me. I do not carry one and haven't for a few years. I still go to a few meetings because of family but they know where I stand. That I really only go for their sakes.
It's becoming more obvious to others that I'm 'fading' and I get the love bombing whenever I show up at a meeting. I've made it clear that I don't want to talk about anything if I get asked. A barrier goes up that they can't get through, I only let anyone know what I want them to know. The blood card issue is something I am going to have to make clear is nothing to do with them, that anything medical is my own personal business and I don't want to share it. It may be difficult but they can't force me to do what I don't want to do.They will have to live with it.
I'm very interested though to find out how others are dealing with 'fading'. There's so many that are still going to meetings and assemblies and it helps a lot to know how they are coping. It's such a fine balancing act,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.
to funny nice job....
so a local needs talk was lovingly given at our hall last week that i'm positive targeted me specifically.
it had to do with missing meetings for work.
they even had a demo on what we should do if our boss asks us to stay overtime on a meeting night (basically say "no" and risk losing your great job which you have no desire whatsoever to lose)... so i'm aware that there's a sort of protocol the elders follow when someone in the hall needs to work on something.
Don't bother about it. What gives them the right to say what you can and can't do with your life? It's YOUR life and you can do with it whatever you choose to do. Why worry about what other people think?
would it be fair to say many of the posts on jwn are in essence about this?.
if we could better understand what worked for us, would we be better able to help others?.
where do basic human needs ("met" by the cult) end, and where does addiction start?.
This is a tough one for me. I'm a born-in, all my family are in and my closest friends (thankfully they know how I feel and about my doubts and love me anyway). So although I'd be happy to give it all up, it's impossible. This is their life and makes them who they are. Does that make me addicted? I don't think so.... but I need THEM. It's a crazy place to be and as it's a part of their life, the ones I love, it has to stay a part of mine. I hate the doctrines, the control, the influence and can see right through the BS but these are people I love and it's important to them. So where does that leave me?
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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They are Pharisees.... just like the ones Jesus condemned.
i want to start doing a wt review on certain articles.
i think we need as much discussion as possible breaking down these mind control sessions.
i cannot compare with blondie, but i will do my best.
My hubby told me I should read it, just before he left for the meeting. Well, I had a quick scan and a read of your review BU2B (excellent), now I need to be able to refute it all without making him angry...
I've already used the angle of 'what about the religions that feed the poor' (like the salvation army). No religion gets it all right. What about the preaching work? It's true they do the preaching work as Jesus told his followers to do but what's the point when you're teaching something he didn't tell us to? That's when the drawbridge goes up....
it's amazing what you perceive, once you know ttatt.
today's wt mind-control session was an amazing example of cult mind control techniques in action!!
the program was about hearing jeehoobies voice!
I was there as well today DD and I read it the same way as you. What made me wince too was when they did that paragraph about Korah and Moses, they included Aaron in with Moses.. what goes straight over their heads is that while Moses was away up the mountain getting the laws his brother Aaron was happily complying with what the people wanted... making a golden calf.
i have been lurking on this site for many years.
i rarely post anything, because my english isnt the best and not sure if anyone understands.
i just recently had a run in with an elder, have not seen him in a few years.
Tell them it's your life and you will do with it whatever you want. God gave you a free will and does not want you to be a robot (even if you no longer believe in God, he does). You don't wish to be rude but you are happy with your life as it is, thankyou very much.
i recently learned ttatt and it really sickens me when i sit through the meetings.
i am so tired of faking things.
i feel like vomiting when annoying things are said from the platform.
I've just gradually let go of everything. I go out 1 hour FS a month to keep under the radar (they are RVs I've had for years that are going nowhere). I go to a meeting maybe once a month just to show my face and keep in touch with the few I like. Family have just got used to it now. They know how I feel which makes it easier. The elders and CO know I have my 'doubts' but that I don't want to talk about it. All in all I've found a relatively comfortable place to be under the circumstances.
