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  A question .....

  by Landy in

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  2. beliefs

  hi guys - new poster here.

  i was brought up a jw in the uk and stopped going not long after i was married.

  that was 20 years ago so i'm not really up to date with the current doctrinal flip flops or the new youtube obsessed gb.. came across this site while googling the name of a local elder who's just been convicted of possesion of a pc full of unpleasant pics of kids.. so, my question.

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  tornapart

  One of the few things I've learned in this life is that first and foremost you have to be true to yourself. If you can't be true to yourself then you can't be true to anyone else.

  Taking the long slow haul instead of the fast route out doesn't mean for one minute that one is being untrue to oneself. I'd rather do it the slow way and keep my relationships intact (especially at my age) than to find myself totally alone. It must be great for those that have no consequences to suffer by doing it the quick way. There are many that have done it the quick way and are suffering a lot of emotional pain as a result. Everyone has to do what is best for them, be it quick or slow. No-one else can say what is the right way to go for another person.
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  A question .....

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys - new poster here.

  i was brought up a jw in the uk and stopped going not long after i was married.

  that was 20 years ago so i'm not really up to date with the current doctrinal flip flops or the new youtube obsessed gb.. came across this site while googling the name of a local elder who's just been convicted of possesion of a pc full of unpleasant pics of kids.. so, my question.

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  Hi Landy, it's very hard! For me it's been a long slow process. I first realised it was all nothing more than being in a cult was 4 years ago. All my family were still in, hubby (an elder), grown children, mother, sister. Just leaving would have alienated them all. Over those years I've gradually let them all know how I feel. My elderly mother has since passed, making it easier to leave. Now I just attend once in a while for hubby's sake, children are gradually awakening to it all. My best friend and her family are also slowly awakening. I'm 4 months into becoming inactive.... sometimes you have to take it slow so you don't end up losing everyone you love.
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  Untrusted

  by Esmeralda001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings,it seems that jw immediately assume that all "wordly" people (as they like to call it) are immoral and unworthy of their trust.

  i sort of understand how it can be dangerous for a christian to have association with someone who doesn't share their values, but don't you think that some members take the conceal lied in corinthians 15:33 to the extreme?

  what about romans 2:14?

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  Esmerelda, they don't trust anybody! You could be a 70 year old spinster with a face like the back end of a bus and they'd be worried about a brother taking you home.... alone in a car.... it's normal for Jws. Everyone has to have a chaperone or else they'd be getting up to all sorts of hankypanky.... believe me, they think anyone on their own with a member of the opposite sex is going to be immoral. They say it's 'innappropriate'.
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  The value of starting a new topic

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see some members , who have been on this board for many ,many years , who very seldom posted a topic for discussion..i would like to encourage everyone in this situation to re-think there reasons for not starting a subject for discussion.. sometimes after the event , i have thought to myself why did you start that topic ,stupid, however on reading the replies to that said topic , i have learnt a helluva lot more in having done so .in other words i learn a great deal more from the feedback i get from you guys than the question or statement i post.. you might think your question or statement is irrelevant , however to somebody else on this board it may just be the thing they are looking for to help them get through some issue of there own .. so please don`t hold back from posting a subject dear to your heart , or anywhere else .. just saying .

  smiddy.

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  I remember starting one a few years ago and it was like opening a can of worms. LOL It got over 400 comments and turned into quite a fascinating debate. (Titled 'If man evolved?') It seemed to take on a life of it's own and certainly gave me plenty to think about.

  Having said that I think for me the best subjects are from various ones who are coping with the situation they find themselves in, especially having family members still in whilst they are mentally and either fully or partially out themselves. It really helps my own situation reading about other's experiences.
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  How about a CAPCHA test for ANY new post?

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. forum
  2. suggestions

  maybe it would be possible to turn the capcha test off for a user after they have "survived" ten posts without being thrown into gehenna?.

  there must be some days it seems like a thankless pain-in-the-ass, but you are rendering a truly life-saving service.. love ya, dude, (and dude-harad and all the little dudettes) in an appropriate and totally manly way!.

  - your idiot fellow traveller..

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  What's happened with only being able to post a certain number of posts as a new member? Has this Nora Batty somehow got past that?
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  Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

  hi people,.

  i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

  1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

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  1) Raised

  2) 1973

  3) 2011

  Time in: 38 years

  and yes if it wasn't for the internet.........who knows?
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  Which Spiritual belief system or non belief system is right for you?

  by Giordano in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we have done this before but we have a fair number of newbie's on this site and some are struggling with the question about other belief systems and non belief.

  where are you now in your own mind?

  here's a quiz http://www.selectsmart.com/nontheism/ that is pretty accurate, at least in my case as to where i am at this point in my life.

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  Oh dear... I call myself a christian and yet apparently I am an agnostic with buddhist leanings... my top one was strong agnostic 100% ..... how did that happen? Maybe Cofty is right in his 'really, really really don't know'.... LOL
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

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  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother, a few years ago I found myself at the stage you are at. It's been a long slow process and what I've discovered is that there are no clear cut answers to anything. The more questions you ask, the more questions there are. One of the things I dislike most of all about JWs (and my family are still in, and I occasionally still go) is the dogmatism. The belief that they have ALL the answers and no-one else does. I'm still a believer in God and Christ but certainly have no faith in what men teach. Especially when it conflicts with Christ's teachings... and if you look closely, what the WT teaches is way off what Christ taught. Keep asking questions, don't fob them off because they don't fit, open your mind to new ideas and new ways of looking at things. It may make you feel as if the rug has been pulled from under you and that there are no foundations anymore and you feel a little lost but this is simply because we have been duped into putting our trust in men. Trust your own instincts, follow your heart and you will soon discover your own way, whether you stay a believer or not... it has to be what you want and not what someone else has told you to believe. It's a process and may take a long long time, but enjoy finding out!
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  CEDARS (Again) Is it really about religious beliefs?

  by Listener in

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  john cedars has posted his latest blog "the trouble with apostates (and why it shouldn't put you off becoming one)".

  i acknowledge that he is entitled to his opionin just as we are ours but i am disappointed in some of his comments.. at this stage i'll try to be objective about it.

  he is defending his own position after all.. what bothers me most is his comments about athiests and christians which he seems to identify as being in conflict with each other.

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  I think one of the biggest problem we all faced as JWs was intolerance. JWs are like many other fundamental religious group, very intolerant of others views and opinions (unless they think they can convert them).

  It can be quite hard for ex-JWs to dump this state of mind and some who become activists can keep this mentality for a long time. ie their view is right and everyone else is wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and opinions, they are not entitled to force those beliefs and opinions on others. After all isn't that what we all escaped from?
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  New song, "Who We Stoning Today" For my good friend Eric on JWSTRUGGLE.coom

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wrote this song after watching eric's judicial stoning.

  i used the words he spoke at the beginning of his video and added more words... here is to you eric, thank you for all you help at jwstruggle.com .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjkxp1tc4t0.

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  Hi Gregg, it's great to see you doing so well. :D I'm sure Eric's going to love this!

  He's been such a huge support to so many of us 'Strugglers', near and far and has been a great friend and help to me over the last 4 years.

  Great song and great voice!