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  What are the chances of having a one on one with GB member

  by Chook in

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  2. experiences

  jesus drifted amongst the lowly folk .

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  would you get a one on one with the pope?
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  CLAM Video: Aug 22-28 2016 – “Jehovah Will Care for Our Needs”

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this video showed a married brother with three children living in a nice domicile and working full time.

  his employer demands that he change his working pattern such that it conflicts with his being able to attend wt meetings at the weekend.

  the brother decides not to yield to his employer’s demand and is thus dismissed.. the brother seeks for work very actively over a significant period but without any alternative being found.

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  I appreciated the review, also on the beroean pickets site, of the 'clam' video, (It's all about control), I used it with my husband. The points brought out had completely gone over his head. The fact the brother could have gone to a different meeting, he didn't have to lose his job... the fact was he had to show loyalty to WT and go to the meeting where and when he was told to. Yes, it is all about control. He got the point!

  It really helps those of who are trying to fade with loved ones still very much in, to be able to argue these points with them. I don't go to any of the mid week meetings, so your reviews and meleti vivlon's reviews are extremely helpful!
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  Evolution Gap - Where's the Fur?

  by shadow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  evolution paints human ancestors covered with fur.

  fur has several benefits as stated by britannica "the pelts of fur-bearing animals are called true furs when they consist of two elements: a dense undercoat, called ground hair, and longer hairs, extending beyond that layer, called guard hair.

  the principal function of ground hair is to maintain the animal’s body temperature; that of guard hair is to protect the underlying fur and skin and to shed rain or snow.".

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  My husband is very hairy for a human... he's beginning to stoop a bit too....
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  Evolution Gap - Where's the Fur?

  by shadow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  evolution paints human ancestors covered with fur.

  fur has several benefits as stated by britannica "the pelts of fur-bearing animals are called true furs when they consist of two elements: a dense undercoat, called ground hair, and longer hairs, extending beyond that layer, called guard hair.

  the principal function of ground hair is to maintain the animal’s body temperature; that of guard hair is to protect the underlying fur and skin and to shed rain or snow.".

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  The answers may explain why humans lost their fur in hot places like Africa but doesn't explain why they didn't grow it back again once they reached the Arctic. Most mammals have either thick fur of lots of blubber. Humans have neither. Without clothes they'd die of hypothermia.

  And Ruby has a point.. that article of Cofty's is full of.. 'our model' 'we suggest' 'maybe' 'we postulate' 'a good case can be made' 'our revised model' 'we believe' 'we assume' .... they are not actually saying that these are all facts, they are 'assuming', 'predicting', conducting an experiment.

  Sounds a bit like WTs 'evidently'.
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  Evolution Gap - Where's the Fur?

  by shadow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  evolution paints human ancestors covered with fur.

  fur has several benefits as stated by britannica "the pelts of fur-bearing animals are called true furs when they consist of two elements: a dense undercoat, called ground hair, and longer hairs, extending beyond that layer, called guard hair.

  the principal function of ground hair is to maintain the animal’s body temperature; that of guard hair is to protect the underlying fur and skin and to shed rain or snow.".

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  Must be because we became so intelligent we didn't need our own fur... we could make clothes out of other animal's fur/wool...
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  My heart's not in it

  by What is Truth? in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you know how when your asked to talk about something your not interested in how annoying it is, or difficult to debate something from the opposite side of your view.

  after learning ttatt i've come to regard the nonsense the org spouts as quite evil then to have to give parts about how great it is makes me hate it that much more.. story aside, what might you say to the elders to get them to dismiss it or get off your back if you told them your heart's not in it any more?.

  not the obvious it's a stupid hypocritical cult that needs to be wiped from the face of the earth..

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  It's sad isn't it that as full grown adults who are volunteering their time to do something (like give a talk) cannot say they don't want to do it anymore without having to make up a load of stories and excuses as to why they don't. We've all been there, some have the courage to just walk away, for others it's so much harder. This is what it is to be in a cult... you have no freedom or choice like normal people do.

  Tell yourself you have the right to choose what you do and don't do in your life and that you don't owe anyone a reason or explanation. It's very freeing!
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  Amazing Kingdom Hall transformation

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, on tues august 2/16 i happen to be driving down westminster highway in richmond, b.c.

  [a suburb of vancouver] and notice activity at the kingdom hall at shell ave. hmm, i say to myself, they must be having a 'work bee' or some such thing.

  i continue on to work.

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  Just had a look on google street view, going by your directions and it shows in July 2015 a large sign outside with 'Development variance permit application' written on it, so maybe they are just building a new KH? This happened to the one in our area, they knocked it down as it needed a lot of renovation and was too costly, so they started from scratch.
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  GB wives, what do they do all day. Are they divas, b%*$hes, or other?

  by aintenoughwiskey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was wondering what encounters others have had with the wives of bethel big shots?.

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  There's a good video on youtube on the channel of Susan Gaskin... look for 'interview with former Bethelite'. She knew GB wives and tells one or two stories.
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  ISIS Want to Clear up Why They Do Terrorism

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  every time isis commit one of their atrocities, well-meaning folks mumble self-loathing apologies on behalf of "the west".

  noam chomsky and his sort lead a chorus of masochistic confessions.

  apparently everybody is to blame for islamic terrorism (according to bill nye global warming causes isis) - apart from islamic terrorists of course.

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  They say they commit terrorism because 'you are disbelievers'. if this is their reason then why are many of their targets fellow muslims? What about the atrocities they committed in Kabul and Baghdad recently? Are shiah muslims not believers in their eyes? What about the ISIS attack at Mecca, supposedly their Holy City, back in May? Also the number of lone wolf attackers such as the one in Nice, aren't even practicing muslims, doing many things condemned in the Quran. Many 'non-believers' probably live more moral lives than they do. What they have to say as to their reasons is just a cover for their violent tendencies and desire for destruction. Their real reason is that they want control and power over as many people as they can and will use any kind of fear, terror, destruction, hatred and violence to get it.
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  Recent mistakes of the Governing Body contributing to the decline of JWs

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  they have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.

  some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.

  1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.

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  Elderly ones having to buy 'tablets' and not understanding how they work, those that don't, feeling left behind.

  Older COs being made redundant, and leaving them feeling exactly that!

  The big Bethelite clearout. Nothing like being kicked out on the street with no money, job or home to make you 'wake up'.

  The wacky broadcasts, that although may appeal to the die-hards, for anyone with a few doubts, it'll just add a few more.. then a few more...