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Godsendconspirator
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Common JW phrases that aren't in the Bible
by biometrics ini'm interested to know common phrases jehovah's witnesses use, but don't actually apear in the bible (even the nwt).
especially phrases most jw's would assume are in the bible.
e.g.. "paradise earth".
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why i believe paul is a composite of numerous historical figures...
by mP infirstly im going to say paul didnt know jesus as a earthly person.
not once did he mention any fact that shows he knew about jesus being born in bethlehem, having a virgin mother, having apostles, dying for sins and so on.
the only writings where paul meats the apostles are basically in acts which many scholars argue was an attempt to merge the jesus story with that of paul.
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Godsendconspirator
I never trusted Paul's writings all because of this one verse.
1 Corthinians 7:25 ~ " Now concerning virgins I have no command from the Lord, but I give my opinion as one who had mercy shown him by the Lord to be faithful. " (NWT)
The Governing Body loves to quote several verses afterwards to show that it's better to be a single person than a married person because you can "do more for Jehovah." They never once mention this previous verse. Paul admits his advice was not divine but was just his own opinion! Makes you wonder what else in his writings was just his opinion.
Also with all the shipwrecks, stonings and beatings he has been given, I wonder if he was "all there" during his later years. -
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Message at yesterdays assembly
by isaacaustin ina relative of mine was at the assembly yesterday and was appalled at the message givien before lunch:.
she heard them blast higher education...then warn to not miss meetings for work...then they gave the stupidest illustration i ever heard- they said that it is true that supporting your family is important...but not to give it too much importance and said it is like trying to cross a busy street.
they said if you see a car a long distance off it is ok to cross, if you are too careful you will never cross the street.
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Godsendconspirator
" One of the things that has made me sad is the sight of a 17-year-old, bright, just at the start of his life, being continually dissuaded from any kind of higher education so that he can pioneer and eventually go to Bethel "where they get a far better education than anything the world has to offer" said my pioneer study conductor."
Last week at the assembly I attended, there was one brother I believe was 21 years old. His experience was that in high school, he said the exact same thing to his guidence counselor and that he wanted to "serve Jehovah [his] god more fully."
Also, has anybody noticed that Jehovah's Witnesses refer to Him, as "Jehovah, my God"? I thought if there was one God, he was for everybody. -
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More anti-apostate rhetoric from the Watchtower - are they running scared?
by cedars inyes, the may 15th watchtower is now available for download from jw.org.. the final study article, on page 26, directs another salvo at apostates - and warns witnesses not to try arguing with them on the internet:.
indeed, we ought to move as far away from wrongdoing as possible and not see how close we can get to it without being overcome by sin.
for instance, we need to guard against succumbing to apostasy, a sin that would make us unfit to glorify god.
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Godsendconspirator
Today at the Circuit Assembly I went to, it seemed like the organization was trying to rid of certain doubts. They had a skit where one brother was encouraging another brother because he was tired of constant "new light". The discouraged brother brought up the whole "this generation will not pass away" bullshit. And the other brother encouraged him to rely on Jehovah. It seemed like a little nod toward apostates. The organization knows of their bullshit teachings are trying to rid doubts of those who are doubting or about to leave by making it seem like they're humble enough to admit them.
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Missionary work--Not worth it?
by WTWizard inhow many have done missionary work?
usually, they urged the witlesses to go "where the need is greater" within their own country--often, those assignments are for a week, or several weeks.
however, when you go abroad, usually it is for a year or more.. and it is usually in the dumpy countries.
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Godsendconspirator
I remember talking to a brother doing work in Indonesia. He told me one mistake he made, because of learning a new language was saying that "144,000 apostates are going to heaven". He said the man at the door got real interested at that point. His wife corrected him though.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-22-2012 WT Study (HELP MEN)
by blondie injohn, his brother james, and their father,.
(john 3:1, 2; 19:38) this fear.
overcome fear of man.
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Godsendconspirator
I'm well aware of the shunning policy. And that's why I know if I leave even before baptism, they won't talk to me. Plus, I found this a good opportunity to, in the same way Witnesses are encouraged to "plant seeds", I can plant seeds as well.
For example, when I was with my bible teacher in his Bethel room, I jokinly asked if I could have some beer though I was underage. He said he'll get me some when I'm older. Then I said Jesus drank wine and quoted John 6:53 ~ "Accordingly Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, Unless YOU eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU have no life in yourselves".
I do this constantly. But at the very least, I'm not afraid of being disfellowshipped if it comes to it. I'll just enjoy my own minstry, meanwhile. -
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-22-2012 WT Study (HELP MEN)
by blondie injohn, his brother james, and their father,.
(john 3:1, 2; 19:38) this fear.
overcome fear of man.
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Godsendconspirator
I'm still new to this site so no one really knows my "story". I can't say it's as long as everybody else's but I do have a story. But to be honest, I did love the religion and did strive my hardest from the beginning to study and to become a witness because I thought that's what God wanted. I have no family in the organization whatsoever. I grew up Catholic. My family was actually opposed to my studying in the first place. First thing they told me, was actually "Don't get baptized." I'm not baptized but I did consider myself a witness and I'm the only Witness in the family.
I'm 2 months short of turning 19 years old. To be honest, the congregation I'm in are actually quite different than others I visited and heard about. It has a nice mix of people in age, ethnicities, backgrounds, etc. We all hang out pretty frequently, have a good time, I tell my 'apostate jokes' (subtly try to get their minds going), everybody laughs. Can't say there's a whole lot of trouble in the congregation. They're not really strangers (but I'm not really baptized or disfellowedshipped so what do I know).
But really, I think why I'm still in it is because I'm just afraid of losing 2 of my closests friends. I knew them in high school, before studying. They were always different. I'm not sure if right now is the best time to tell my story because they affected my life in a big way but they were different to me than other people. Plus my bible teacher. He's about 8 years older than me but me and him are like brothers. It's that type of friendship where first thing we do when we see each other is hurl insults. The elders see it as normal now. And even though we fight a lot, he helped me through a lot of stuff, not just with organizations stuff but as a friend. We constantly joke around, fight (sometimes even physically), taught me, been there for me and in whatever he's like my big brother.
So that's why I'm still here. I could lose contact with my congregation, that's fine. But losing those 3 people would hurt. But you are right Zid. I have no excuse. Not when everybody else has more worries and went through more trials than me. And I guess I'm pretty lucky or blessed. -
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-22-2012 WT Study (HELP MEN)
by blondie injohn, his brother james, and their father,.
(john 3:1, 2; 19:38) this fear.
overcome fear of man.
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Godsendconspirator
While at that meeting, it was so obvious that WTS was going under. The elder conducting the meeting straight forwardly said a few times: "People. We need brothers." I also find it hilarious how tomorrow I'm going over the first part of the baptism questions with that brother. Haha. Seriously in the last 2 years, only sisters were baptized. I'm considered the "all-star" of the congregation because I've been studying for almost 2 years now and "progressed quickly". Found out all the lies a few months ago but still here for some odd reason.
I haven't even studied the baptism questions for tomorrow but considering how desperate the organization seems, I'll probably get baptized anyway.
I have a friend in the spanish congregation. She says there's more people leaving than coming in. It's just a bunch of elderly people and then 2 teenagers. -
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"Disobedience is very costly"
by TOTH inwow, i had some words with my father in law.
over the years i have always had such a profound respect for him because he used to speak from the heart and used the bible to express his view, but lately he has become more and more "wt-ish" with his comments.
my wife has been suffering from severe pain for years due to injuries suffered at the hands of her 1st husband.
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Godsendconspirator
The hell? That's just insane. Even the term "mentally diseased" appears in the New World Translation. Woe to those saying good is bad and bad is good.
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Going to Apostate Church
by DilemmaGF inhow many of you had gone visiting any apostate church when you were still in?
what was your feeling?
my bf went to my church with me once, i wonder how he felt....
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Godsendconspirator
I grew up as a Catholic and frequently attended church. When I became a witness I never really had an irrational fear of churches. It seemed more of a joke to me than anything else.