Posts by Godsendconspirator

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Another Story about JWs Placing JW.org Tracks

by ABibleStudent in

while i was writing my 1-page bio to send to managers today, a 30-ish, nicely-dressed jw man and woman knocked on my door.

they wanted to give me a track to visit jw.org.

i don't believe that jw.org is truthful.

Godsendconspirator

It's funny how they want no part of the government until it's their "constitutional right" to be there.

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Surreal experience last night.

by objectivetruth in

recently a jw friend that my wife & i knew 3 years ago added me on facebook, after i accepted the request she invited me to a dinner that her and her husband are holding next month.. i imagined that she was unaware of our apostasy, so i declined the invitation on the basis of not wanting to ruin her dinner after the rest of her guests fled at our presence.. i'm never sure how old friends will react when i tell them that i'm no longer a jw.. usually their response is "..... permanent-silence......".

her response went something like this, " we are all out!

everyone that is coming is out we all look forward to seeing you guys so much" it turns out that there will be 6 people at the dinner all friends of ours from a congregation that we attended a few years back.. they have all left the organization recently.. pretty crazy experience..

Godsendconspirator

Congrats! I'm happy for you that you can you take back what the GB took away.

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Weird crazy rules imposed by your local Elders.

by stuckinarut2 in

we all know the sort of thing..... in many congregations, specific "rules" creep in...introduced by the local elders that become set in stone.. years ago, i heard of a congregation that sat down during the first song of the evening but stood for all others (the co changed that very soon after).

then there were the older accounts of congs that had rules to make the public speakers wear only white shirts.... in one cong now, i heard that brothers can only be used for sound or microphones if they do a minimum of 5 hours per month in the ministry!.

another cong has ruled that all appointed men must pioneer for at least one month each year in order to remain qualified.. .

Godsendconspirator

^number three is crazy. They kick you out and still want control over you.

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Name Some Things That JWs Look Down Upon That Normal People Wouldn't Even Think About?

by minimus in

jw
friends

jws look down on others for saying, "bless you" if someone sneezes.

it has something to do with the demons.

another example is that it is considered satanic if a man took his hat off for a lady!

Godsendconspirator

When I tried fading the first time, I was getting texts from the elder saying how they didn't like my beard.

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Muay Thai

by Godsendconspirator in

i remember posting in here a long while ago about starting to learn muay thai.

i think it's been 2 years since i've stopped regularly attending meetings.

and one of things i set out to do when i left was join a muay thai gym.

Godsendconspirator

I remember posting in here a long while ago about starting to learn Muay Thai. I think it's been 2 years since I've stopped regularly attending meetings. And one of things I set out to do when I left was join a Muay Thai gym. I wanted to anything really, go to school , smoke, drink, travel and I just happened to land on muay thai as one of the biggest passions I ever had for anything in my life.

The owner of my gym is a Thai and he has over 400 fights in his lifetime so I get a glimpse what the experience is like for someone who did this literally, his whole life, and the training he went through.

I have my first fight in 2 weeks. I never thought that I'd be doing this. And I never been so happy doing something. I just felt like sharing :)

And to think the WTS never wanted me doing this.

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YOU WILL NEVER SEE THESE ACTS EVER MENTIONED IN A WATCHTOWER PUBLICATION

by steve2 in

faking of hours in field service or dragging service time out by making coffee stops or driving for hours "between" household contacts are never frowned upon, let alone mentioned, in the publications.

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yet, in each congregation of jehovah's witnesses, to one degree or another, faking hours, padding time out with coffee stops and long journeys between opportunities to "witness" are endemic practices..

Godsendconspirator

I remember when I first became a publisher and I told the elder that I started my time when I walked into the apartment building and he "corrected" me and said I can start my time when the meeting for field service ends.

Another time I was with a brother and I didn't particularly wanted to do street work and I was honest about it. I told him repeatedly that we should head to our assigned location. He asked me how time I had so far (which wasn't much). Then he asked "well, do you want to get more time?" to which I replied yes. Then he said , "well take out your magazines then! You don't have to talk to anybody"

All that stuff threw me for a loop.

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My first cigar

by LivingTheDream in

my first cigar.

not soon after i faded, i was on a company shindig and they were providing hand rolled cigars to everybody there.

i watched in amazement as this dominican guy rolled them in front of my eyes with great care and skill.

Godsendconspirator

First cigar I smoked was a Black & Mild. I used to really love them. I have a friend and we used to just go on walks and enjoy a pack. It wasn't too long after that I had to quick because they were destroying my health. Maybe I just needed to slow down a bit, haha

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Disassociating

by Godsendconspirator in

hey guys.

don't really post here much, mostly just lurk around.

so here's just backstory: in 2012, after about half a year of research i decided to leave the organization.

Godsendconspirator

I've tried the "Class is keepin me busy" type excuse to not make it. I actually really don't mind being shunned at this point. My parents are Catholic. They were very angry with me when I started studying with the witnesses so it's not like I'm going to lose them by DAing myself. I even tried dropping little hints here and there even when I was in, but I've seen no "seed" being planted but who knows. I realized that the only way they'll see the organization for who they really are is if they want to.

I'm just tired of countless texts and emails telling me to come back. And the fake conversation starters. They always go "How hows the family? Hows school?" then onward to a barrage of questions about my spirituality. I already chewed out the elders and told them to stop coming to my door, especially on days where I would say I'd be busy or out of state. Since I live in NYC, everybody is within walking distance of each other and constantly seeing them outside feels like I'm entering a battle whenever I encounter one of them. At one point I could not even stand being in my own neighborhood without having an anxiety attack. I'm over that now. I'm tired of these battles and what am I to gain from maintaining my "friendship" with these people? I've been going over in my head that if they shunned me, if would be the end of this harrassment.

But I think I'll just write a letter to the brothers and sisters that I care about. Telling my point of view and if they wish to have a friendship that's not based of religion, I'd be just fine with that. Thank you guys.

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Disassociating

by Godsendconspirator in

hey guys.

don't really post here much, mostly just lurk around.

so here's just backstory: in 2012, after about half a year of research i decided to leave the organization.

Godsendconspirator

Hey guys. Don't really post here much, mostly just lurk around. So here's just backstory: in 2012, after about half a year of research I decided to leave the organization. I still wanted to maintain contact with the brothers and sisters though so a year ago, I tried to fade out. I guess my fade wasn't smooth enough because after my last meeting, I had a barrage of texts and emails asking where was I and if I was okay and that Jehovah missed me. After that, I got a new job, entered college, took up Muay Thai martial arts and various other things. But now I'm sick of the conditional love they keep offering me. I went to a meeting once since last year and after that we all went to dinner and hung out like old times. But after that, it went to the same thing: friendship based of conditional love.

Now I have new real friends who know everything about me and still accept who I am. And I feel now that I weened myself off of these guys, I don't feel like I would be too hurt if I never spoke to them again. The question is though is how to go about writing a letter disassociating. I'm done.

On one hand, I want them to know the real reason I left, the things I've learned just to get everything out there. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to write too much (although it would be) and overwhelm them causing their faith to strengthen.

How did some of you go about officially disassociating?

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The Lion Will Eat Straw Like An Ox In The New System

by frankiespeakin in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm3sqb7pgdm.

the wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, and dust will be the serpent's food.

they will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain," says the lord..

Godsendconspirator

When I first started studying my bible teacher said: "I don't know where we'll get all the protein we need though. Maybe Jehovah will create a protein plant." Looking back, that was an amazingly retarded explanation.