I remember like yesterday, when my mother said to me, disparaging and pessimistic, it would be a steady downhill decline for me once I left the organization
yes, but if you are successful that is only because Satan is distracting you from the Truth with all your success. Typical JW fashion - EVERYTHING is double standard and applies both ways.
If you are in the truth and happy - its cause of Jehovah, if you are in the truth and sad it's because of Satan's pressures.
BUT - if you are out of Truth and happy its satan, and if you are out of the truth and sad, its because you've left Jehovah and need him to be happy.
THAT my friends is 100% fact. It is precisely how JW's rationalize this...
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Happiness is a Study
by AllTimeJeff inparadise!.
live forever!.
as jw's we were taught that things, money, posessions, cannot make you happytm.
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Happiness is a Study
by AllTimeJeff inparadise!.
live forever!.
as jw's we were taught that things, money, posessions, cannot make you happytm.
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wallsofjericho
nice post Jeff
so true about finding happiness within you. I remember once I was mentally out, standing on my porch looking up at the stars and coming to terms with the fact that there was no external entity or thing out there that owed me happiness or was ever going to imbue happiness into my life.
It was me that was going to have to do it and for the first time in my life I started asking myself all those questions "worldly" people would ask:
-why am I here?
-what is the purpose of life?
-how do I find true happiness?you know... all those legitimate, soul-searching questions that JW's snicker at because they have all the answers already?
I came to the realization that as a JW I had never been happy in any real way (as you mentioned above). Rather, I had an illusion of happiness.
This illusion of happiness is in actuality the cessation of guilt.It's amazing how much of a JW's life is completing the weekly routine of meetings, preparing for meetings, personal study, bible reading, service, days texts, etc.
We are inundated with the importance of doing these things reqularly lest we summon Jehovah's displeasure. So for the average JW, when they complete this ROUTINE they feel happy. They honestly beleive it is happiness they are feeling when in reality they have just temporarly eased the burden of guilt constantly heaped on their shoulders week after week by the WTS.
They can't even enjoy recreation to the full because even recreation is made to seem wasteful and selfish - thus even when vacationing, golfing, skiing, or taking day trips - JW's often still have a lingering guilt that needs to be pacified and thus never fully experience the happiness that can come from enjoying these special times.
For the JW - they can't wait for Jehovah to come and fix this miserable world. You know why? BECAUSE THEY'RE MISERABLE - but they THINK they are happy
Not surprising at all how plagued JW's are with depression with this degree of duality and dichotemy exising for so long.
Acknowledging this was a huge leap for me. No one can make me happy or give me "happy" - but me, happiness is an attitude not a thing to have or possess.
thanks Jeff
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Do you miss "dressing up" for the meetings?
by dozy ini was thinking about this the other day when doing a bit of tidying up of my wardrobe.
all the kh suits are now pushed to the back of the wardrobe and i am seriously thinking about a visit to the charity shop to get rid of most of them.. for me one of the (few) enjoyable aspects of being a jw was getting dressed up.
my secular work very rarely involves putting on a dress suit & tie so i miss getting dressed up - smart suit , tie , shiny shoes , slapping on the aftershave.
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I like looking sharp in a suit. Hate the constant changing of clothes from casual to suit and back to casual.
My past and present experience is that most JW's wear ugly suits and ties, if not ugly then old and blah.
half the bro's in my KH still wear double breasted suits! I don't think those have even been sold at stores for over 10 years now.
and often you see unironed, wrinkly puffy collars that should have long ago been tossed in the bin, but they keep wearing them. Those and their worn in "meeting shoes".... you know, the "good black shoes" they own - that are worn right through the finish at the toe and the sould is completely smooth? ya, those shoes.
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QFR WT MARCH 15TH - PORN - D/F
by stillajwexelder ini assume you are all aware of this by now.
qfr could a christians practice of viewing pornography.
become so bad that it results in his being expelled.
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even when I pioneered i looked at porn.
FYI - there is a plethera of completely free, easily accessible pornography on the web. You can watch endless hours of porn with 2 to 3 clicks of your mouse at any time
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2011 Watchtower publisher statistics with analysis
by jwfacts inthe 2012 yearbook has released the publisher statistics for the 2011 service year.
a scan of the report can be found at http://www.jwfacts.com/images/2011-publisher-report.pdf and i have started updating the graphs at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php.
as expected, it is following on from similar trends to the last 15 years.
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there appears to be some geniune JW's on the site. If the site would have been open and blunt and called itself "Anti-JW Site", I would have avoided it.
I am an inactive JW but my wife and entire family and all my freinds are JW's. I live as a JW - everyone knows me as a JW. This site is a far greater source of spiritual enlightenment for me than the WTS has ever been or could ever be.
Stick around David, the feeling of your eyes opening is amazing. So many things that you have supressed your entire life all of sudden make sense.
It's very cool
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2011 Watchtower publisher statistics with analysis
by jwfacts inthe 2012 yearbook has released the publisher statistics for the 2011 service year.
a scan of the report can be found at http://www.jwfacts.com/images/2011-publisher-report.pdf and i have started updating the graphs at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php.
as expected, it is following on from similar trends to the last 15 years.
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*** w00 1/15 p. 13 par. 18 “Keep on the Watch” ***
Six Convincing Lines of Evidence
Sixth, the number of genuine anointed disciples of Christ is dwindling, though some will evidently still be on earth when the great tribulation begins. Most of the remnant are quite elderly, and over the years the number of those who are truly anointed has been getting smaller. Yet, referring to the great tribulation, Jesus stated: “Unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.” (Matthew 24:21, 22) Evidently, then, some of Christ’s “chosen ones” will still be on earth when the great tribulation begins.
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Chemicals buried at WT Farms (WT ruining the earth)
by doinmypart init seems that the wt is guilty of illegally dumping printing chemicals (or as they like to say "ruining the earth") in upstate new york.
read the full articles from the news sites below.. "state officials are investigating chemical pollution found buried at an upstate new york property owned by the jehovah's witnesses organization.
" http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/8e675d204fbf4352ab2cf65086b4b411/ny--buried-chemicals/.
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*** w70 10/15 p. 618 par. 5 Saving the Human Race—in the Kingdom Way ***
Man’s devices are not just those nuclear and other weapons of modern warfare that are capable of mass killing at high rates of speed. Man’s devices include also his peacetime ways of ruining the earth, namely, by his arranging for man’s living quarters, his making foodstuffs available for human life, his distributing those food supplies, his disposing of the waste products of big industries, his exploiting of the earth’s natural resources, his spoiling of the natural environment of mankind*** w71 9/15 p. 561 par. 10 Set Apart from the World ***
For fifty years and more, through the Watchtower magazine, Jehovah’s witnesses have consistently warned of the dangers inherent in the materialistic society. Science and technology boast of material progress, but for half a century they have in fact been ruining the earth. (Rev. 11:18) Self-seeking materialists have played havoc with the productive land, polluting air and soil, river and sea, and decimating the living resources of the earth. In some countries the few rich are very, very rich, and the many poor are very, very poor. With populations exploding all over the earth, many nations now stand at the brink of starvation, and disaster is predicted by experts for the mid-1970’s. Rather than fit in with political promises of a bright, materialistic tomorrow, this devastation on earth fits Jehovah’s prophecies on mankind’s waywardness in the “last days.” (Mark 13:8; 2 Tim. 3:1, 2; Rev. 6:5-8) Who have been making known the truth about materialism—the world’s propagandists or Jehovah’s witnesses?*** w69 3/1 p. 136 Earth Becomes a Paradise ***
Then the whole earth will radiate happiness. It will be as if its meadows and mountains, its trees and flowers, its rivers and seas, are all rejoicing at Jehovah’s righteous rule. (Ps. 96:11-13; 98:7-9) The fresh air will no longer suffer contamination. Every river and stream will sparkle with fresh, pure water. There will be no more ruining of the land.*** g80 11/22 p. 14 Those Frightening Chemical Wastes—Is There an Answer? ***
Those Frightening Chemical Wastes—Is There an Answer?
EVERY minute 152,700 pounds (69,260 kg) of deadly chemical wastes are produced by American industries alone. Less than one tenth is properly disposed of. So the chance that some of this flood of poison will enter your life is very real.
What Hinders Proper Disposal?
GREED. Safer methods are costly. Many companies use cheap illegal dumping instead. While it may cost from $20 to $155 (U.S.) a drum to dispose of waste properly, illegal dumpers, in some areas, reportedly do it for $1.50.
ECONOMIC SYSTEM. For some companies to dispose of their chemical wastes properly would mean raising prices, or even financial ruin. Millions of jobs could be lost. The economic system would be ruined. So governments and some of the working masses are reluctant to protest too strongly against waste pollution. -
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How did life started - the scientific answer!
by dark angle injust wanna share this astonishing presentation.
enjoy.
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Larsinger58 said:
there is no doubt there is a living God, because I've seen and spoken with him. I'm by far the exception, but that's the reality now
Need I say more?
-Considering I never ready anything this Fred Franz wannabe says I am surprised I actually picked that out as I attempted to scroll past his post without reading itI understand why some people might be convinced by what scientists think they are seeing, especially since the Bible notes that Satan would create such destructive propaganda that it might even fool the elect.
in other words: the devil did it. Ya that's a another great argument. This is double think at its finest. This is a very typical response from protagonists with no proof or evidence of anything they are spouting, so much so that even they themselves can't explain what they believe, let alone explain it to others.
Anyone that has actually wasted 60 minutes of their life to read one of Larsinger58's 3 page long biblical calculations posts, only to see it fail 2 weeks later, then see him change it again even adding a backup date in advance of the other date failing (again), only to see both of those fail also, knows this guy is completely disconnected from realityThe direct appearance of God nullifies any potential claims that evolution disproves the Bible or God for the elect, even though it might seem so. Thus the elect, knowing God exists, must conclude that there is some reasonable explanation for the false-positive results science are coming up with.
You already answered this one.... the devil did it. Remember? Ya that's it, the devil did it. Rock solid
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How did life started - the scientific answer!
by dark angle injust wanna share this astonishing presentation.
enjoy.
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How did life started - the scientific answer!
by dark angle injust wanna share this astonishing presentation.
enjoy.
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wallsofjericho
Larsinger58 said:
Abiogenesis and evolution may not be connected in the world of evolutionists, but they are still connected in the real world, which completely disproves that incorrect theory. What evolutionists need to do is disprove the Bible, which they can't.
There is proof in this thread that Abiogenesis and Evolution are absolutely true 100%
If Larsiner58 DOESN'T believe it then it MUST be true!!