You should go
hes your dad, be proud of him whether you agree or not
if you don’t go your dad will be hurt and you will likely see a degree of shunning, if you go they’ll love you for it
Sounds like your family are reasonable people
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Invited to a talk: What to do?
by Fred Franztone inmy sister texted me last night with an invitation to watch our dad give his first ever public talk.
i don't live particularly near to my family, but i'm not too far from them to make the journey, and i am on good terms with them, having never been baptised and so not disfellowshipped; they don't shun me and likely wouldn't even if i were disfellowshipped, it's not in their character.. i haven't been inside a kingdom hall since 2006, and i would like to keep it that way; i only intend to step inside one again in the event of a family wedding or funeral service.
i don't want to be rude to my sister, ignoring the text isn't an option, so i need a diplomatic way of declining her invitation.. i've considered saying that i'm busy, but this leaves things open for her to ask again in the future, and i'd rather she got the message that i'm not interested, without me having to say so in an explicit way.. any suggestions from those who have been in a similar situation?.
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A concise list for my therapist...any suggestions?
by Straw Man inbeen a lurker here for a long time.
i am just now starting to deal with the issues from my witness upbringing.
it's been about 10 years since i was df'd.. just recently i started to see a therapist and i am trying to get across the depth of the effects of growing up a witness.
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wallsofjericho
I’ve really been around the block with this religion and am very self aware in my midlife
JW or not, it’s usually the parents that screw up the kids. Yes the religion plays a part obviously, but non-JW parents screw kids up too
no doubt the isolation experienced as a jw kid in school can have a lasting affect on ones self esteem.
but as an adult I see so many non-jw adults with all kinds of similar problems and life struggles.
No matter how we were raised, we have to find our own purpose in life whether or not it aligns with that of our family jw or not. Hopefully your therapist helps you start a new journey instead of rehashing a previous one
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Two witness rule: Stop using it, its not working on JWs!
by StephaneLaliberte inmost jws don't see this as a problem.
they reason that.
just like the jws, the police will not convict a pedophile over the story of one victim alone, there must be collaborative evidence.
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wallsofjericho
Elders aren’t police. They deal with the congregation. The PARENTS should go to the police.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
If a normal person (non-jw) has an abuse allegation do they expect their minister to tell the police for them? NO, the minister/priest deals with the congregation and the parents call the cops.
The problem was never the two witness rule, it’s that parents were advised not to go to the police (Parents are no longer told this, at least that’s the letter I heard read in my cong a few years ago) and subsequent shunning if they do
Even if a pedo was DFd w/o two witnesses they’re still walking free if the parents don’t tell the police.
Why would a parent take the advice of some random elder in a criminal matter? Elders had no business telling parents not to tell police and parents had no business asking the elders in the first place.
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Financial bubbles....
by mikeflood inall of those doomsayers about the central banks throwing money in the economy of the countries through quantitative easing (qe) ....and eventually making cash worthless.....is that for real?.
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wallsofjericho
Historically the US is due for an economic contraction 2018-2020
i am not an economist but when watching economists debate the current US condition everything happening with the dollar, interest rates, taxes, spending, trade, etc. this is all old hat pre-contraction stuff
the biggest companies in the market are all tech companies, HUGE worth BILLIONS, but the manufacturing sectirs are starting to show weakening, these huge growth tech companies are propping up the market to appear stronger than it really is at its core
its coming
maybe not 2008 but it’s coming
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What's changed since I left in 2006?
by Jehovah lol ini think i made a thread like this a couple of years ago but i can't remember what was said and i'd rather have a new discussion anyway.. what's different in the wts since i left it behind in 2006?.
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Is anyone else like me.... that so much has changed you wouldn’t even know where to begin?
setiously, so much has changed that anyone under 20 wouldn’t even know what you were talking about if you mentioned generation of 1914 or 1975 or types/antitypes or revelation grand climax or F&DS
we used to hate the internet now we LOVE the internet
We used to read BOOKS and get new books at assemblies and have book studies at peoples houses and have 3 meetings a week!
How can you explain what’s changed when nothing is left of what hasn’t?
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Watchtower Philosophy Debates
by Wild_Thing ini was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.
i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.
i could care less.
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wallsofjericho
I’m exactly the same! I used to scrutinize very little detail
now I could care less about jw doctrine
i suppose in part because it doesn’t really matter any more. Back in the days of Franz we LOVED all the years and toes and antitypes and all the bullshit that lunatic wrote
Now nobody in the hall really actually knows what they believe, it’s just the “best life ever” and that’s enough
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"not doing well spiritually"
by Introvert 2 inworking late tonight i just thought this up : whenever we used to hear someone say " so and so is not doing well spiritually™ " or "not doing well in the truth™ " what it really means is they aren't doing well climbing the wtbts's corporate ladder or doing their beck and call following the herd cult thingy.
been brought up before but had to share..feel free to add..
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wallsofjericho
I loathe that phrase
its said with no need for “evidence” or honesty. Anyone can just “say it”
similar to not giving the correct answer in a “conscience” decision (CD) despite being a CD you will be asked to “pray about it” and talk with elders in a few days
of course pray about it means choose the correct CD
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Free Minds Web Site
by garyneal inanyone know what has happened to freemind.org website?
it's still up but it looks like a shell of the site i remember back five or six year years ago.
if i am not mistaken, i think randy may have taken ill over the years.
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wallsofjericho
So glad to hear his ticket isn’t punched
i suppose we’ll all get our turn at that one day but I don’t think Randy’s work is finished
we all love you dogpatch!
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Free Minds Web Site
by garyneal inanyone know what has happened to freemind.org website?
it's still up but it looks like a shell of the site i remember back five or six year years ago.
if i am not mistaken, i think randy may have taken ill over the years.
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wallsofjericho
Please update!
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backhanded compliment to Sunday speaker
by road to nowhere ina couple years ago we had a speaker, better than average, give the talk.
since i was still pretty much a believer, i commented to him how i enjoyed the talk, and how it was "entertaining".
it was, but he got mad as it was one of the beat the fear of god (governing body) into you talks.
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wallsofjericho
Having JW app on my phone alllows me to text and surf web
To sit and relax for a couple hours catching up on some internet reading, I actually quite enjoy it :)