"Old" keeps moving up. Now it's the 80's and beyond.
But if a person has their health and their mind, 80's is just a number.
having a conversation with a pimi elder and i asked him how he deals with the fact that he never expected to get old.
i get the feeling that some dubs still have the original generation explanation hard-wired, even though they claim to accept the new version.
so my question is, how old do you have to be to be considered old?
"Old" keeps moving up. Now it's the 80's and beyond.
But if a person has their health and their mind, 80's is just a number.
as jehovah’s witnesses, we were regularly told how awful a college education is.
i’m no longer associated with the religion but i am not so pro university.
it’s not because i think you are better off without a degree.
A college degree can help to open some doors. That being said, much of what I learned to get my bachelor's degree was not helpful in the real world. Education needs to be streamlined. Why should doctors need to learn about literature or history? Same for accountants or other career fields. Lots of wasted time. We could have more doctors (that are desperately needed) if they only were required to learn the things in their field.
some people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of wt teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.. others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth.".
i would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if i should be in or out.. how about you?.
It was all I knew for the first part of my life. I was an impressionable kid. I believed it. Yet some stuff rubbed me the wrong way. Like saying my Dad would die at Armaggedon because he wasn't a JW. He is such a great and humble man. It didn't make sense to me that God would kill him off like that.
has anyone else seen the netflix documentary “explained: cults”?
i thought it was well done.
i feel like a jw might watch it and feel uncomfortable as the show goes through the definition of cults and then the step by step indoctrination process.
I just watched it yesterday. Yes it was well done.
it actually took me a few years to finally leave the organization so i was mentally out for a while before i simply stopped all meetings altogether.. how long did it take you to finally make the break?
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for those of you that have not got my book new boy yet, it will be free for down load on amazon books.
you can down load it on your kindle for the next 30 days at no cost.
enjoy keith.
Just finished reading the book. I got it for free on Amazon unlimited but later decided to buy the kindle version for 99 cents to have a permanent copy. It is jaw-dropping and eye opening. Thanks to the author for sharing his story.
Thank you Deborah Dykstra for all your hard work in getting this book published. You persisted through the difficulties and the criticisms. Many will now benefit from your efforts.
My deepest sympathies on the loss of your dear husband.
Thanks also to Mike & Kim for getting the word out that this book is available.
in my case; 27 years.
7 of which were as a ministerial serpent ... sorry, i mean 'servant' ;).
From age 5 to 27. Not to mention all the years spent undoing the damage.
knocked on a door on a saturday morning.
a window opened on the floor above me.
a grizzled old man stuck his head out and said, " we're all heathens here!
I had a bible study once and she began attending the book study with me. I'd drive the five miles each week and pick her up and drop her off. Suddenly she was not home for her book study. I called and spoke to her husband. He said she had left him but I could still call on him. I had never met this man and I got a funny feeling about it. We arranged a day and time and I took an elder with me. The husband opened the door wearing a bathrobe. The elder and I said a few words and quickly left. It was extremely awkward. Needless to say I never called or visited again. Now, thinking back, I believe this was a ploy to stop all visits. It worked.
new letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).
february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.
re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.
In recent years, many disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals have returned to Jehovah after having seen Jehovah’s Witnesses carrying out their ministry in public places. Others have approached the elders after reading a copy of the Return to Jehovah brochure or watching JW Broadcasting.
One thing I've learned to always ask is ---"Is this true?" So WBTS - how many individuals have returned to Jehovah after reading the brochure or watching JW Broadcasting? One? Two?