if the corporatin fails.... new groups will be born from it.. I think
Tater-T
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Why I think (in a nutshell) why this org is approaching collapse
by cptkirk inin a nutshell: i think that (and i do not enjoy thinking about this)...i think that the crazies within the religion (who range from just low level people to co elder do and up) have won so many battles at this point (over the more balanced people/ideas)......that the people who tend to think in a more balanced fashion (whether they themselves be low level or higher up) are getting to be the real minority.
i think this dynamic, will be what finally sinks the ship.. as we see with any organization (corporate or otherwise), many times there are reports that make you wonder (how is this thing alive or prospering?
), and upon closer scrutiny, there are strong people in the background holding the walls up (who themselves get little attention).
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A conversation about universal sovereignty
by outsmartthesystem in"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.
both the angels and humans needed to see this.
me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?
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Tater-T
how can God say they were perfect?....... they listened to a talking snake....
I agree imperfect people ruling themselves .. outcome is fixed..
he should have made offspring perfect to really settle this.. so it will never be settled, because in the new system when we are perfect again he will be ruling ...
I'm how could anything go wrong with the universal sovereign ruling ..
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A conversation about universal sovereignty
by outsmartthesystem in"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.
both the angels and humans needed to see this.
me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?
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Tater-T
universal sovereignty... humm... so cast man out of garden right after sin.... angel not cast out of their home till right before the end of it all...
and they get to spoil mans effort to rule themselves..
sounds like Jehovah is stacking the deck against us..
I wonder if the defecting angels and the loyal ones have beeen enjoying their time together.. did the loyal ones get stuck with all the $h*tty choirs..
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A conversation about universal sovereignty
by outsmartthesystem in"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.
both the angels and humans needed to see this.
me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?
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Tater-T
and why do all the perfect angel creatures get to live so long after they sinned?
what was their forbiden fruit so to speak?
Isn't it unfair that Adam and Eve where trick by perfect spirit person.. I mean would they have ate with out an outside influence,
didn't God know about all his spirirt sons.. what they were capable of? was there ever a warning about talking snakes?
reasonable?
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I'm turning myself in. Lurking elders, are you listening?
by Eve Deceived ini think it's fitting for my very first post to be a thread on jw.net turning myself in to any lurking elders out there on a witch-hunt to cleanse the congregation so that god's choosen ones can "remain in god's love.
" so i'm sorry to all you awesome, truthful apostates on this site, but this thread is really intended for any lurking nazis -- i mean, the taliban -- ugh, i mean elders of the world's most "loving" cult religion.. i am an apostate.
here, i'll save you the trouble:.
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Tater-T
thanks... it might be Princeville cong
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For anyone unsure as to whether JW's are a cult..please read...
by lostinnj83 inif the informaiton i am posting is redundant or has been posted, please forgive me.. i know we are all at different stages of this journey.
for me i am still "in" but working towards being out and leaving.
any one in this position or who has been here knows how diffucult of a time this can be.
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Tater-T
I found similar outlines.. just googling cult..
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Here it is
by ariker inthanks for taking the time to take a peek.
any comments, positive or negative are welcome.
one jw has already posted it as spam, which i thought was a riot.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-tcy86as6i&feature=youtu.be.
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Tater-T
I remember you now
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/246476/1/Dont-want-to-spam-the-site
good luck with the film.. I liked and subscribed.. my You Tube channel is TheTaterTV
It's a little dark though
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I am totally confoused who is the Faithful and Discreet Slave Class?
by booker-t ini have been hearing and reading on websites about some "new light" jws are saying concerning the faithful and discreet slave class.
it sounds like the same information they have been saying for years.
i was always taught the faithful and discreet slave class is the annoited governing body members dispensing food at the proper time for the non annoited jws.
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Tater-T
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When Was The Last Time "The Friends" Checked Up On You? Spiritual or Social Visit?
by ÁrbolesdeArabia ini know of two couples who left the congregation i faded from, they two have never received a shepherding call, i was usually the one who came by with food or offered to help clean their homes.
most of you are beyond this like i am, this goes to the new members arriving here who might think the "friends" are coming to check up on them.
the elders in my former hall were too much into drinking and eating, average body weight was 265lbs with pumpkin shaped bodies.
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Tater-T
A friend call me in 2009 to tell me... I could get reinstated now and it was a easier.. and what had happened to me was wrong.. that I should look into it
I DID...
thats why I'm here.. this why they don't want members encouraging DF"d ones... they might take a closer look and become apostates..
I DID!!!!
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I'm turning myself in. Lurking elders, are you listening?
by Eve Deceived ini think it's fitting for my very first post to be a thread on jw.net turning myself in to any lurking elders out there on a witch-hunt to cleanse the congregation so that god's choosen ones can "remain in god's love.
" so i'm sorry to all you awesome, truthful apostates on this site, but this thread is really intended for any lurking nazis -- i mean, the taliban -- ugh, i mean elders of the world's most "loving" cult religion.. i am an apostate.
here, i'll save you the trouble:.
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Tater-T
you have a pm..