i am inactive and it took years of doubt to convince myself the jw's arent true.
i started doubting because i hated the idea that jehovah would kill 6 billion non-jw's.
the thing now that is the most important proof for me is that until 1954 jw's worshipped jesus and it is still in the watchtower charter, even though you now get disfellowshipped for worshipping jesus.
It always bothered me that, when in the door to door work, with a zealous MS future elder, householder wanted free in home bible study without WT publication ..
He would say, " we could BUT... yadda yadda... yadda ... run away "
then as we were running away tell me," Well we could BUT.. when someone says that .. it's obvious they don't have the right heart condition.."
great thread.. interesting the posters still at it all these years....
john 7:8-10.
"go up to the festival yourselves.
i'm not going to this festival yet, because my time has not yet fully come.
Or you could apply occam's razor....... what is occam's razor
the bible condradicts it self is simple as seen here and OP ...or multiple assumptions that it doesn't
this time i mean it.. thanks for all the ones that love me .
i am getting off the site after all these years.. anghard & simon .
but of late.
I didn't miss you ... and my A$$ getting swiftly kicked didn't either ..
Ok Ok I really did miss you
most witnesses that i knew of were spurred on by hearing a talk designed to make them feel guilty over their not doing enough.
co's visits, assemblies and conventions motivated a few to pioneer, "reach out", etc......soon after the talks, usually, in less than a month, everyone went right back to slacking again.. did you feel "motivated" due to guilt when you were an active witness?.
I was motivaed out of love to do more .. until they started with the " you have to Hate what jehovah Hates""
then I started to want to do less.... and I didn't want to be in the org .. I just want to serve jehovah on my own...
I didn't like being told what I had to HATE!
My name is Tate I will not Hate what you State
L8R T8R
quick question, faithful followers of our treacherous hearts... .
i should know the answer to this but.... so the great crowd class were identified in 1935, but does the wt suggest when it's members first appeared on earth?
all first century christians were of the annointed (i think that's right), so when do they think the first of the great crowd rolled up?.
since the anointed are only 144000.. then the rest of humanity would end up in the great crowd .. so I guess it would be about 250 000 years ago.. when man first apeared on the scene .. on planet earth !!
heard from a friend living on the east coast (u.s.) that bethel is starting to crack down on obesity.
they are sending bethlites for mandatory physicals and if your bmi is high they make you go on a diet.
according to my friend, this person told him that he knows of a bethel brother who was flat out told he was "fat!
I know but it's rare.. and I just drive this point because everyone I talk to about it wants to avoid the obvious solution.....
What are you eating ... How much are you eating ... How often are you eating..
If you honestly answer these questions .. you will win..
example : depression making me gain weight.. no.. depression making you eat to much ..
really proud of this young man for his speech.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nir4zbz18e.
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/valedictorian-rips-preapproved-speech-recites-prayer-instead-172941933.html.
Marvin still doesn't get it.
yea ! dude I gotta say for a new member you are totally awesome !! I love reading your post ...
but did you really think he would .. LOL
heard from a friend living on the east coast (u.s.) that bethel is starting to crack down on obesity.
they are sending bethlites for mandatory physicals and if your bmi is high they make you go on a diet.
according to my friend, this person told him that he knows of a bethel brother who was flat out told he was "fat!
That being said I do fully understand and appreciate that many factors go into a person's size namely DNA, bad metabolism, depression, medications that cause you to gain weight, etc.
I notice when people talk of this matter they overlook the obvious .... eating to much...
I have a few friends who want to lose weight .. I've lost 50 pounds .. when They ask me .. and I say it's about eating less.... portion control ..
they say no no I just need to join a gym ... or what ever ..
that being said other than a few medical conditions ... over eating is the cause of being overweight... period...
by the way I lost 50 after quiting smoking by eating 6 small meal 3 to 4 hours apart ... always a little hungry never too full..
I'm type 2 diabetic .. which forced me into this diet
my name may be a bit premature...because i'm actually still active within the org, but i guess you could say i've already "left" in my heart.
i'm just scared to take the first steps, because i don't know any "ex's" in my neck of the woods, and i'm very scared of loosing my family.
i just need someone to talk to.. .
welcome to the board...
glad you broke those chains of mind control that were in your head...
good for you
jw leaks has published the respondent's brief prepared by rick simons in the case: candace conti v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york & fremont congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
(90 pages).
http://jwleaks.org/candace-conti/.
great stuff on here, saw this meme, thought about this thread.. I hope you are right vidiot
