It must be really nice to think that you are never the problem with any of your life issues. That all good things that have happened to you are because of how wonderful you are and everything bad that happens to you is because of Watchtower.
Posts by JC323
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11Legal Fundraiser to 'sue' individuals JW's (ie. elders) for defamation
by Nathan R. Koppe inremoved.
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Watchtower appeals the lawsuit in Quebec (Canada)
by yalbmert99 inwatchtower appeals the lawsuit in quebec (canada) french:.
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1173405/temoins-jehovah-crimes-sexuels-appel.
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JC323
Violet. The number is actually not that high. The reporting from Mr Zalkin is 775 blue envelopes in 1997. In the Padron Case it was reported that between 2001 and 2016 the total names would be about 1600.
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Wanna buy some Watchtower stock???
by BereanThinker7 inhas anyody ever wondered what couldve happened if ray, and the other long timers that left, never gave up their shares??.
they obviously don't sell stock anymore either, but how do those who have possession of watchtower stock even come to have it?
and are they just told who to vote in for the corparate positions at this point?.
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JC323
The other members vote in a member for a defined term. It also requires in the bylaws that the member be a member of the special fulltime order of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Watchtower appeals the lawsuit in Quebec (Canada)
by yalbmert99 inwatchtower appeals the lawsuit in quebec (canada) french:.
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1173405/temoins-jehovah-crimes-sexuels-appel.
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JC323
DesirousofChange
Yes, the representative plaintiff was abused by a family member, and regardless of their religious belief, the abuse would have happened. The mother at any time could have asked her adult son to leave, as he was well over 18 when the mother was informed of the abuse.
Also, the Canadian Supreme Court ruled that a civil court cannot rule if a person can or cannot be a part of a religion. The plaintiff is asking for the court to interpret if religion provided enough support to someone who was abused. What standard are they going to use, what words does someone have to say in order for them not be held liable in a lawsuit? A large part of the lawsuit is that the plaintiff says that because the person wasn't removed from the religion then the mental abuse continued. Again their Supreme Court ruled that is not a thing that a court can decide.
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Watchtower volunteer injuries
by neat blue dog ini was recently talking with a zealous 'sister' who for years was assigned to use a certain chemical while taking care of wt property, only to have it irreparably damage her immune system partly because she wasn't trained properly.
she said there was a potential lawsuit but she didn't want to bring reproach on jehovah's organization.
has anybody else heard of similar situations, of people being hurt or injured in service to the org, maybe even because of them, and taking the loss so the org wouldn't look bad?.
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JC323
I have actually heard the opposite. That Watchtower actually asked for an official lawsuit because that is what is required for their insurance to pay out.
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What About A Class Action Lawsuit For Emotional Harm From Secret Kangaroo Courts Orcestrated By The Watchtower Coporation
by Humphry ini think malice and outright fraud can be proved very easily, and what about 1st amendment violations and chilling free speech to warn friends and family about the fraud and abusiveness of this corporation.
information that needed to be passed on to loved ones but cut off by shunning imposed by an announcement of so and so have been found guilty by a secret committee of men appointed by the wt corp. to do it's dirty work of silencing critics of the corporation.
maybe the whistle blower laws can be evoked.. i'm just throwing this out there on the net to stimulate some kind of thinking about the possibilities maybe not even a class action but perhaps a couple of people heavily harmed by this way past its expiration date abusing mind control cult and its totally phony judicial system to keep members under their evil control.. to start things off and then latter a class action..
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JC323
The complication of trying to make a constitutional amendment would be impossible. There are a number of cases where people try to sue watchtower an individual congregation or individual elders. Also other religions and their congregations. You cant sue over a JC or a DFing
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What About A Class Action Lawsuit For Emotional Harm From Secret Kangaroo Courts Orcestrated By The Watchtower Coporation
by Humphry ini think malice and outright fraud can be proved very easily, and what about 1st amendment violations and chilling free speech to warn friends and family about the fraud and abusiveness of this corporation.
information that needed to be passed on to loved ones but cut off by shunning imposed by an announcement of so and so have been found guilty by a secret committee of men appointed by the wt corp. to do it's dirty work of silencing critics of the corporation.
maybe the whistle blower laws can be evoked.. i'm just throwing this out there on the net to stimulate some kind of thinking about the possibilities maybe not even a class action but perhaps a couple of people heavily harmed by this way past its expiration date abusing mind control cult and its totally phony judicial system to keep members under their evil control.. to start things off and then latter a class action..
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JC323
The court cannot look at the proceedings or an internal religious discipline. You would have to ask the court to look into a religious practice and for them to say this is acceptable and this is not. That would be a violation of the establishment and expression clause of the 1st ammendment.
A private organization can stop free speech all they want, just like a private citizen can stop free speech. The constitutional protections is for protecting citizens against goverment action. Not private action.
Intentional infliction of emotional distress has to meet I believe 4 criteria. 1 is that it must shock the senses of the general community. Expelling a person from a private organization doesnt shock the senses.
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What About A Class Action Lawsuit For Emotional Harm From Secret Kangaroo Courts Orcestrated By The Watchtower Coporation
by Humphry ini think malice and outright fraud can be proved very easily, and what about 1st amendment violations and chilling free speech to warn friends and family about the fraud and abusiveness of this corporation.
information that needed to be passed on to loved ones but cut off by shunning imposed by an announcement of so and so have been found guilty by a secret committee of men appointed by the wt corp. to do it's dirty work of silencing critics of the corporation.
maybe the whistle blower laws can be evoked.. i'm just throwing this out there on the net to stimulate some kind of thinking about the possibilities maybe not even a class action but perhaps a couple of people heavily harmed by this way past its expiration date abusing mind control cult and its totally phony judicial system to keep members under their evil control.. to start things off and then latter a class action..
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JC323
It would never survive summary judgement. Because no civil court can enter itself within a dispute with in a religious membership issue.
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What About A Class Action Lawsuit For Emotional Harm From Secret Kangaroo Courts Orcestrated By The Watchtower Coporation
by Humphry ini think malice and outright fraud can be proved very easily, and what about 1st amendment violations and chilling free speech to warn friends and family about the fraud and abusiveness of this corporation.
information that needed to be passed on to loved ones but cut off by shunning imposed by an announcement of so and so have been found guilty by a secret committee of men appointed by the wt corp. to do it's dirty work of silencing critics of the corporation.
maybe the whistle blower laws can be evoked.. i'm just throwing this out there on the net to stimulate some kind of thinking about the possibilities maybe not even a class action but perhaps a couple of people heavily harmed by this way past its expiration date abusing mind control cult and its totally phony judicial system to keep members under their evil control.. to start things off and then latter a class action..
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JC323
You would have to sue over a right or over actual damages that can be proven. There is no right to speak with people, people are allowed to chose to speak with whoever they want from a legal point of view. Intentional infliction of emotional distress is such a high bar that few people can ever reach it in the huge number of legal proceedings a year. There is no assault or other criminal act either.
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Watchtower appeals in Montana.
by lastmanstanding ini won’t steal barb’s thunder, but has anyone had a chance to peruse the appeal that watchtower launched yesterday?.
watchtower’s main argument is that stuff was said in confidence with confidentiality surrounding that confidence and they are confident that clergy confidentiality which is in confidence is confidential.. in short, it ‘was a secret and should stay a secret.’.
omg.. and watchtower claims that this verdict “violates the constitution of the usa”.. i wish the jury could tack on another $50m and include watchtower lawyers are to be hanged.. i just had to say something.
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JC323
This is the actual wording of the statute. MCA 41-3-201 (6) (c)
(c) A member of the clergy or a priest is not required to make a report under this section if the communication is required to be confidential by canon law, church doctrine, or established church practice
The statute removes the intent of the person who is giving the communication and does not allow them to lift the privilege. The person who owns the privilege is the clergy member.