Posts by time2keepmoving

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Disgusted with JW Funeral Today!

by time2keepmoving in

my son grew up with one of the young brothers in the kingdom and after graduation both him and my son left the kh.

the young man who left the hall fell into the wrong crowd and i mean a really dangerous crowd and as a result of him getting involved in illegal activity he was murdered.

i really feel for this young man, because he was a decent kid.

time2keepmoving

@redvip2000 - Man, you said a mouth full! So right!!! The way they handled this, took my disgust for them to a whole new level.

@jgnat - good idea, thank you for the suggestion, I will tell my son about this.

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Disgusted with JW Funeral Today!

by time2keepmoving in

my son grew up with one of the young brothers in the kingdom and after graduation both him and my son left the kh.

the young man who left the hall fell into the wrong crowd and i mean a really dangerous crowd and as a result of him getting involved in illegal activity he was murdered.

i really feel for this young man, because he was a decent kid.

@ Jomavrick - Yes,they did the same thing at my mother's service (who was also a life-long JW). Fortunately there were more people who knew and cared about my mom, then not. But here was some of those mixed in as well and I was soooo close to cursing them out that day!!!

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Disgusted with JW Funeral Today!

by time2keepmoving in

my son grew up with one of the young brothers in the kingdom and after graduation both him and my son left the kh.

the young man who left the hall fell into the wrong crowd and i mean a really dangerous crowd and as a result of him getting involved in illegal activity he was murdered.

i really feel for this young man, because he was a decent kid.

time2keepmoving

My son grew up with one of the young brothers in the kingdom and after graduation both him and my son left the KH. The young man who left the hall fell into the wrong crowd and I mean a really dangerous crowd and as a result of him getting involved in illegal activity he was murdered. I really feel for this young man, because he was a decent kid. A lot of people tired to talk to him but he was headed for trouble real fast.

So many of the kids that left the hall (I feel) did not have the support that they needed within the organization, no youth groups, no positive alternatives offered to them so they would stay away from the wrong elements. No trips for the kids, activities, career / computer training, sports, dances, nothing. You beat them over the head about staying out of the world, but the Borg offers them nothing, no alternatives. All the millions of dollars they store up in that f-ing Brooklyn tower in the sky and they don't invest a dime in the youth, nothing! All the KH offers is weekly guilt-trip sessions to push magazines and books for the Borg, or the wonderful chance of performing slave labor on building projects or working like an indenture servant overseas - where the so call need is great. :rolling eyes: I just can't with them.

So the sister had this young man funeral at a funeral home (because of course she can't have it at the KH since he was murdered). She had this old elder gave the funeral eulogy and he didn't even know this young man. The young man who died name was only mentioned 3 times in an hour an 1/2 and of course they did the standard, genertic B.S. funeral talk they do at everybody's service. I was so disgusted!!

It sounded more like the talk you hear during Memorial Service than anything that would memorialize this person's life. There were so many young adults there that needed to hear something positive as well as a cautionary word about getting involved with the wrong kind of lifestyle that could end your life as quickly as it did this young man's (he died before seeing his 22nd birthday).

Man, I was rolling my eyes the whole time and when they asked everybody to bow their heads and pray, I just couldn't. I could not give an amen to that bogus, disrespectful service that never once spoke about this person and how a young life was lost before it was found.

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What happened immediately after your Judicial Committee was over?

by civicsi00 in

whenever i went to my judicial committee (over 3 years ago), the elders opened with a prayer for jehbooboo's guidance.

then they followed up with their loyalty question, "do you believe in the faithful and discreet slave?".

of course i answered "no", and shortly thereafter i handed over my disassociation letter.

time2keepmoving

I would not give them details, I made sure of that, when they were talking, I reach a point where I said "look, I'm taking control of my life as a 47 year old woman and I'm going to do what is in MY best interest. You got a problem with it, that's your to sort out, not mine". They told me to open to a scripture and I told them I didn't have my glasses and so I wouldn't be able to read along, even though they were in my purse. I was basically done in my head.

They got irritated (I suppose) and asked me to wait outside while they came to their decision. I went in my car and call the people I thought I had a decent relationship with in the KH and told them they were about to disfellowship me (especially since I got smart with these fools). One of the elders was a nasty, miserable disrespectful MF so I knew he was going to push for disfellowshipping. I always checked him on his behavior, I never let him treat me like I wasn't worth being respected as a human being because I was a sister. He knew not to try me, because I would definitely come for him. One time he called my house at 10:30pm to get my FS time (which I didn't care about so hardly ever turned in on time without being harrassed) and I told him "Just because I'm single does not mean you can call my house anytime you feel like it. I would never disrespect you or your family and call at a late hour. I work so I don't have time for this, you can make up any hours you want, I got to go to work tomorrow" and I hung-up on him

In any event, I didn't care how that mess was going to go either way.

I was under so much stress.......that's when it clicked, I said "let this shit go, if i'ts causing you this much stress it ain't worth it!" That's when I broke with the mind control programming. Right on the spot and knew when I walked back into the backroom, it would be the last time I stepped into a KH again. I was FREE!

The next day I followed up with the witnesses that I knew who I felt geninuely cared about me and told them I was disfellowshipped and I wish them all the best but I was not coming back. One sister tried to talk me down and told me to take the punishment and come back; I quickly dismissed her as she had done the exact same thing I did and left the state to go to another congregation and get reinstated. Sneaky bitch!

Prior to my disfellowshipping event, I confined in her about all my doubts about the organization and our similar situation, she told me she couldn't keep this info to herself, she was going to have to tell the elders .....didn't take long for this hypocrite to turn into a trailor (typical JW)! But I never told them about the extra stuff she had confined in me about, that they didn't even know. At that point, I told her "hey, do what you gonna do, I don't care either way." I was completely unconcerned. She tried to contact me several times after I got disfellowshipped but I just block her number.

Now life is a lot less stressful for me, and even though I have my moments in my day-to-day, like we all do, it is not compounded by the stress of this crazy, demanding, mean-spirited organization.

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NOT on " JW.org" :NBC NEWS: Jehovah's Witness Servants who molested children and the cover-ups. A re-share for new members.

by Balaamsass in

advertise | adchoicesnew evidence in jehovah's witness allegationsthe jehovah's witnesses have settled nine lawsuits alleging church policies protected men who sexually abused children for many years.

below:next story in nightly newsrelated 31frederick mcleanby lisa myers and richard greenbergnbc news investigative unit updated 11/21/2007 5:43:14 pm et2007-11-21t22:43:14 <a href="#" onclick="fdcpurl(window.location.href, true); void(0);">print</a> printfont: +-frederick mclean is one of the most-wanted fugitives in the united states, charged with 17 counts of child sexual abuse in california.

law enforcement sources say that when a victims family confronted mclean in 2004, he allegedly confessed.

time2keepmoving

So basically your donations are going to the borg to settle with victims who were molested by pedos in the congregation, just to keep their so-called reputation in tack. All the bones are coming out the closet and all the bodies are being uncovered. This false prophet is being completely expose....it's just a matter of time before the whole house of cards comes crashing down. They can't hide shit no more, everything is coming to the forefront.

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Power Struggle At Head Quarters Reason For Governing Body New Light?

by frankiespeakin in

well could it be that we overlooked this little idea in our reasonings on why the governing body is comming up with new light they love the idea of?

about the f&ds?.

you know to keep any type of rebellion at bay before it starts.. have you ever woundered what many that are closely associated with the governing body are feeling about these new guys called the governing body right now with all this new light loved by the governing body,,i smell trouble a brewing for these guys right there at headquarters i'm sure thier dealing with everbody they meet they reflect this same attitude so they got to be making enemies..

time2keepmoving

Accept, Obey, Repeat. Accept, Obey, Repeat.

Everything you do is a "test of loyality"...

And is it any wonder JW's are nuts??? And, again, We'll do all your thinking for you.

Crazy ain't it, as soon as they started stressing me out with all that crap. I stepped back for the first time in a long time and took a good, hard look at this organization and within two weeks I decided to start living my life the way I saw fit as a fortysomething grown woman who was more than capable at this stage of making my own life choices.

I let too many things slide and allowed "circular reasoning" to kick-in from the weekly brainwashing sessions. I brushed off a lot of the red flags and negative things I was seeing from the so-called "friends" and borg. Until I final said "No, this shit is real, something is seriously wrong here." Soon as they called me in that back room, that was all the confirmation I needed. Yep, these people are bat-shit crazy. I knew once I walked out that room, they would never set eyes on me again. After I left I started doing some hardcore research and all my suspicious were confirmed. My only regret, (like many ex-jw's) is that I didn't questions that shit earlier!

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Conversing With a Disfellowshipped Elder

by Quendi in

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time2keepmoving

This person is probably going to go back into the organization, because that's all he knows. Good, Bad or indifferent. I don't know why you entertained him since he did not reach out to communicate with you after you left the organization, especially since you said you were good friends. He took your call because his status is the same as your now, but you know the deal if it wasn't.

Now if he is successful at getting reinstated, he will cut off communication with you and act like that conversation never happened. IMO you are just wasting your time and good common sense on someone who already knows the system is heavily flawed but is still willing to go back. I would not try to reach out to him again. I suggest you move on and don't look back, allow room for healthy, balanced individuals to come into your life. Sometimes stepping back and messing with those people who are still in or clinging to this dying organization is regression not progression for YOU!

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Todays Bloomberg/ Business Week story: Religion and Money in the U.S.A.- "How the Mormans make Money".(explains how the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society hides assets).

by Balaamsass in

the church of latter-day saints has amassed financial holdings worth billions.

here's an inside look at its business empire.

read the story on businessweek.com: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-07-10/how-the-mormons-make-money.

time2keepmoving

According to U.S. law, religions have no obligation to open their books to the public.

This is the thing, they want to ask for YOUR money in a form of a donation, but most of these big-box religions like the JW's do not want to be transparent about where that donation is going.

Most people demand that of social services agencies like United Way and other charities, but seems like nobody is questioning where their money is going if it's an organization claiming to represent God and doing the work of the Lord!

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Reinstatement in the kingdom hall means that you'll still be shunned by all for a long time = decades!

by witchtowerwitch in

don't count on too much mercy my fine featherd friends,,,hehehe,,,lol...!after your reinstated,it will take 20 to 30 years before the dubs start to forget your sorted past.....and you all know this right?so why bother crawling back with you little tail between your legs,so a bunch of glorious elders can save face before the rank and file?no one should be df okay,as this was not the teachings of jesus,only paul who wrote this stuff,but could some wacko in the last 2000 years have inserted this satanic practice into the scriptures to control the masses and manipulate them?the apostle paul wrote too many contradictions in his writings,so why trust in anything that he wrote about?why trust the gb in hq/nyc as to their writings in these past 130 years,since everything that they wrote about is all lies,,,hehehe lol...!who is going to disfellowship them in the hq department for being liars?maybe jehovah will do it in his own due time?.

time2keepmoving

I've been disfellowshipped since December of last year. I'm so happy right now and the burden has truly been lifted. I have no intentions on going back because I know the organization is a fraud. My experiences has been that people talk....... far and wide..... and even if you try and switch Kingdom Halls, that mess seems to find its way to you.

I agree that it might be better to leave that circuit or move out of state. Shame, a person has to resort to something like that, but this is one of among many things that should tell you that God's spirit and direction is not with this organization.

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What association does The Society permit her single members?

by compound complex in

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friends

good morning, fellow posters:.

ironic opening question, eh?.

certainly i could answer this question myself from the publications and personal experience; however, i am interested in your perspective, background, experience (whatever you're willing to share).

time2keepmoving

There is nothing for single individuals or single-parent in that organization. Exactly like Quendi said they are "r outinely ignored or marginalized". In other words, you get 'no love' and 'no attention' for your own specific needs as a single person or parent.

The W&TS does not address, assist or encourage single people other than to run around in the full-time service or serve where the 'need is great' where ever that may be. You are not worthy of having a life, that affords, interests, friends of the opposite sex, traveling, an education, creative skills, etc. You are just some generic blob whose sole purpose in life should be to push their publications, recruit new members and be the beast of burden for all the other members in the KH. Single parents are treated even worse.

This organization is still caught up in the 50's and is very much dismissive of anything outside of the family unit with the 2.5 kids.