Finally WT is taking away field circus time reporting. Starting in November 2023, colporters just need to check a box if they did anything cult related. My guess is they can’t dare expose the devastatingly low numbers without any truthful explanation. Eliminating time reporting for only the earthly group will safely cloud the low numbers. Everyone else is still required to turn in time.
WokenfromJWcult
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Can the Watchtower Society survive without time reports?
by DT inthere has already been much discussion about how the watchtower society has declared in australia that going door to door is part of a personal ministry.
this seems to be a lame attempt to avoid liability considering that they require time reports and have formal meetings for field service at the kingdom hall.. this is a bit of a dilemma.
reporting time and formal meetings for field service are important methods of control, however it's not clear if the organization is willing or able to handle the potential liability that may come from this.. imagine what would happen if they lost these methods of control.
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Disfellowshipped ones who die before the "last minute repentance"
by jonahstourguide inhi all.. i've posted this in humour given that most of jw doctrine changes and flip flops are just so.. as stated, if there is now to be a 'last minute redemption'.what happens to the aforementioned folk?.
cannot wait for a explane-ation.
am i the only one giggling at this??
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WokenfromJWcult
Imagine David karesh and hitler having a study after the GT. The WT doctrine is so full of holes.
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Do you play the LOTTERY?
by Fisherman injw view gambling as a sin and sadly people get addicted to gambling causing them financial and health problems.
but is playing a couple of bucks a week on some lottery tickets actually gambling?
what do you have to lose?
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WokenfromJWcult
In the barios, the lottery is considered their retirement plan.
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Retirement savings
by TxNVSue2023 inwhat's the current jw stance on retirement savings?
i know it changed.
pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".
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WokenfromJWcult
Back in the 80,s, there were so many getting on the bandwagon of multi level marketing scams that the WT had to warn against it in their assembly talks. I recall Avon, Amway, Mary Kay, Herballife, Shaklee, Tuperware, Primerica, Phone cards, and Del Dotto no money down real estate books and tapes. It was almost weekly someone would try to get you into their scheme. I fell for a couple of these but quickly saw there was no money to be made, more likely money to loose.
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So, 60 Years Ago
by titch inso, folks, 60 years ago, starting on september 1st, i believe, we, local witnesses in southern california, had the "privilege" of attending the "around the world assembly", at, of all places, the rose bowl, in pasadena.
(i think that it was an 8-day assembly) i was 9 years old then, almost ready to start 4th grade.
so, was anyone else, on this site, at that assembly?
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WokenfromJWcult
I can’t imagine the pure torture for children to attend 8 days of this bs in the heat and rain. My memories of 63 were of swimming at the beach across from palm beach, Santa claus in shorts and seeing JFK at WPB airport. All good memories provided by caring and wise parents, from Christendom. Those were the days, when Flipper was just coming out, in living color!
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slimboyfat joins the Mormons!
by slimboyfat ini know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.
at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.
in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.
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WokenfromJWcult
I enjoy listening to their tabernacle choir singing “America” and Christmas songs. But that’s it. In Lahaina Maui this tragic week, their building is Beeing used as a shelter since it survived. Wondering if the still standing Kingdom Hall will be used for community good, or just for members only.
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Luke 23:43 the NWT
by Ade inluke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.
nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.
now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.
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WokenfromJWcult
The original op is dealing with the training and schooling of the so called translators, and the trust we have put in their knowledge to do a correct job of translating. An example here is , think about walking outside and it is a clear blue sky but with a few small clouds way off on the horizon. Would you rather believe your window washer who says it is going to rain in 2 hours, or an educated meteorologist, who was trained by this field to interpret the weather, who is telling you a hurricane is on its way ,so prepare. The Watchtower has no trained “meteorologist “ on its governing body, just a few window washers.
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Did anyone really enjoy assemblies?
by SydBarrett inthe twickenham post made me think of this.
i have a few jw family members on facebook and being summertime, their pics of the convention have shown up in my fb feed.
along with their comments about "i wished it would never end" or "what a glorious weekend".
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WokenfromJWcult
My time at assemblaughs was a good time to catch up on sleep. It became a little more tolerable when laptops became acceptable and I could leave through surfing the web. I changed my ssid to TTATT-Thetruthaboutthetruth. Now I have empathy for those that have to fake this time in their lives.
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a pet peeve of mine
by enoughisenough inputting this under "friends" because i couldn't figure out where to put it.
it is very often on here and in ex jw videos, ect that people like to undermine some of those who once we would have called friends.
there seems to be a view that window washers, plumbers, cleaners, construction workers are somehow less intelligent than those who may be college educated.
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WokenfromJWcult
Even on the Wheel Of Fortune show, the first question they ask them is what they do. People are so quick to categorize each other into work boxes. On the other hand, if someone said they drank all day and was an arsonist, most people would avoid them at all costs.
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Careful what you wish for! Regarding Jehovah in the New Testament
by pizzahut2023 inok i'll bite.. let's say for a moment that jehovah's witnesses are right, and that the nt autographs (the originals) contained the tetragrammaton.let's say that the nt writers always wrote "jehovah" in greek (iexoba, as the witnesses spell it currently) when they quoted the hebrew scriptures, whether they quoted from the hebrew version or the septuagint, and jehovah's name appeared on the quote.
let's say that the original septuagint always had iexoba whenever they were referring to jehovah.then we have that the original septuagint said in psalms 101:26-28 the following:"at the beginning it was you, o jehovah, who founded the earth, and the heavens are works of your hands.
they will perish, but you will endure, and they will all become old like a garment.
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WokenfromJWcult
When this questionable translation was released , the fact that the men who did the translation remained anonymous, is all the information I need to reject their interpretation of the scriptures. Credentials of the men that did this should be available to all who read this translation because some readers are betting their lives that the translators are 100% correct. Readers have no recourse to address questions, such as the blatant addition of the word “other”, and changing crucify to “to the stake with him”.