Posts by pale.emperor

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Tony Morris Shows Off Engraved Gold Ring with Turquoise Birthstone(?)

by Funchback in

the july jw broadcasting camera zooms in on tony's ring at around the 8:30 mark here:https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-jwb_201707_1_video.

maybe it's not a big deal.

maybe it is.. in my opinion, it's being kind of flashy.

pale.emperor

I dont think thats a stone, it looks like a reflection from the camera. I did think it a little too flashy for an international broadcast, but then im not a cult leader with 8 million people drooling at my every word.

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Observation of Sam Heard at Regional Convention in Dayton, OH

by LevelThePlayingField in

heard gave 3 talks at the convention.

one thing i noticed rather quickly was how stuck he was to his notes.

he rarely looked up.

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IMO Heard and Losch are the worst speakers in the Body. Both barely fit for even the #3 in the Theocratic (old) school.

The others arnt much better. Can you imagine the reaction if Stephen Lett was just your normal visiting speaker, got up on the platform in your KH and did a talk in his manner? He'd be laughed off the platform.

Then there's Anthony Morris III just going on and on about the gruesome details of armageddon on talking about tight trousers.

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Observation of Sam Heard at Regional Convention in Dayton, OH

by LevelThePlayingField in

heard gave 3 talks at the convention.

one thing i noticed rather quickly was how stuck he was to his notes.

he rarely looked up.

pale.emperor

I remember i had a part at the circuit assembly. One of those demos where they show a "bad" family and a "good" family. I was in the "bad" family and had to present i was skipping a meeting to go to a rock concert. Everything was scripted from Watchtower. It even included American slang that we dont use here in the UK. The "bad dad" even had to say "the folks at work have invited me bowling this Thursday". Really? "folks"? "bowling"?

It's pretty sad that the old token black guy of the GB cant give a talk without being note tied. I mean, if anyone would be able to get away with throwing their own ideas into a talk it'd only be a member of the GB. Lets just hope his earthly course is due up.

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Interesting Thing My Little Girl Said Today

by pale.emperor in

my 3yo daughter lives with me 4 days and with her mum 3 days.

i have her tues, wed, fri evening and saturday all day.

which means my ex takes her to sunday and thursday meetings but she doesn't go door knocking on saturday because she's with me.. i dont mind - at the moment - because in a way i want her to know the jw jargon so we can talk about it without having to explain what it is, and i want her to compare the bullshit to the real world.

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fukitol
Pretty unorthodox arrangement that you have your 3 year old daughter the majority of the time. Children that young need their mum's mostly.

What she needs is stability and love. Her mum does love her, but the Watchtower comes first. And her OCD. The only thing i expect from my daughter is to share and be nice to people.

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Subliminal images - why and who are the individuals behind it?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i remember about 5 years ago reading on another site about subliminal images in wt literature.

i honestly thought it a load of bs until i checked out one glaringly obvious image of a creepy skull in clouds within the knowledge book.

i was shocked and even showed my wife at the time who thought it was creepy.. so my question is why?

pale.emperor

I very much doubt Watchtower are doing this. Think about it, some GB has got to think it up, pass it on to someone in the art dept, then get it printed. Are you telling me that no one in the art dept has ever left the WT? If they did they'd be telling us all about it. Listen, if you hold a picture of anything to a mirror at a certain angle and squint you'll see whatever.

Subliminal my ass.

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Whats that term??

by pbrow in

so i am driving with my oldest the other day and she says..... i was reading the watchtower at the meeting and thought.... "the watchtower and awake are just like... what is that stuff that countries put out when they are at war?...

propaganda... yeah, they only give you one side of something and you have to listen to them because they are chosen".

i praised allah right then and there!!!

pale.emperor

I remember when i was dating an Oxford lecturer in politics, i shown her a watchtower magazine and within seconds she asked me "ok, they're claiming "scientists say..." what scientists? what are their credentials? what tests did they run? was it published and acknowledged?". As a JW we just accepted phrases like "scientists say...", in the real world, intelligent people require more than that. As a teacher, there's no way she's accept an exam paper without citations and credentials of the writer.

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Last Memorial Experiences

by NoviceLocs14 in

i'll share mine first.... i had never missed a memorial for at least a quarter of a century of my life.

i was kind of raised to believe that missing the memorial was a sin in itself.. by 2013 memorial season, i was missing most of my meetings (even though i was still technically part of my foreign language congregation), and i had just come off the pioneer list.

i still made plans to attend the memorial (god forbid if i missed that lol).. i knew that typically our memorials were around 9 pm, since we usually got last priority (being a foreign language hall and all).

pale.emperor

The last one I went to was 2 years ago when I was still an active JW but in the process of awakening. Didn't go to 2017's because I was already wide awake and out.

I am going to next years though so I can eat and drink it. My arrival will make the elders think coming back, that I'm playing their game. But when they see me partaking it'll likely piss them off. I hope so. Might even break a peice off for my daughter to eat.

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Suggestions for a JW Apostate logo

by Chook in

if you can't upload one vote on others suggestions.

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Looking for experiences from those who are married with kids and have dissacociated

by UnshackleTheChains in

this is a question for those who officially left the organisation and are married; and your spouse and kids are still in.'.

i just wanted to find out what your experience has been when you dissacociated.the following questions go through my mind all the time.

it always comes back to the what if's!.

pale.emperor

Okay. so how are divorces happening when someone leaves the borg? That is not a scriptural ground.

Well we all know the only reason a JW can get a divorce. My ex and i are separated. But since leaving me for simply not believing that Stephen Lett and co. are going to be kings and a priests with Jesus i've taken care of that issue and she can now seek a divorce... many times over

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Interesting Thing My Little Girl Said Today

by pale.emperor in

my 3yo daughter lives with me 4 days and with her mum 3 days.

i have her tues, wed, fri evening and saturday all day.

which means my ex takes her to sunday and thursday meetings but she doesn't go door knocking on saturday because she's with me.. i dont mind - at the moment - because in a way i want her to know the jw jargon so we can talk about it without having to explain what it is, and i want her to compare the bullshit to the real world.

pale.emperor

My 3yo daughter lives with me 4 days and with her mum 3 days. I have her Tues, Wed, Fri evening and Saturday all day. Which means my ex takes her to Sunday and Thursday meetings BUT she doesn't go door knocking on Saturday because she's with me.

I dont mind - at the moment - because in a way i want her to know the JW jargon so we can talk about it without having to explain what it is, and i want her to compare the bullshit to the real world. My ex is hit and miss with the meetings as it is. It's not uncommon for her to call me on Thursday or Sunday when she should be at the KH - she even gives me an excuse of why she didn't go (like she needs to explain herself? Remember those days?). Anyway... i was walking home from the bus stop with my little girl yesterday and we had this conversation. Keep in mind, she's 3yo:

DAUGHTER: We're not going to the hall are we?

ME: No. I dont go the hall.

DAUGHTER: Later?

ME: No. Later we're going to a...

DAUGHTER: Cafe!!!!!! :-D

ME: Yep. Hey, i used to go to the hall you know. Remember?

DAUGHTER: No. (She was 2 when i stopped going). do you know _________ (her friend)

ME: Yes. I know her mummy and daddy. When i was little i was in the same hall as her mummy. I used to knock on doors too. Have you done that?

DAUGHTER: No! (laughs)

ME: Do you want to?

DAUGHTER: No!

ME: Cummon, lets knock on this door (i pretend im going to walk up a random path and knock on their door)

She laughs hysterically. I asked her what it's like in her hall as if i dont know. She described it as a room with books where she plays with her friend and the mums talk... she was describing the back room. So meeting attendance is just my ex sitting in the back room talking to other mums while the kids play? That's good news for me, it just means she's not there for the "spiritual food" and most likely doesn't even want to go. My kid just thinks it's a play room. I cant imagine any bible study at home going on seeing as when we were together my ex was studying the Bible Story book. Seriously. The Bible Story book!