Posts by pale.emperor

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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall

by pale.emperor in

has anyone else heard this?

a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?

a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.

pale.emperor

Has anyone else heard this? A poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.

Last year they were told to shun even non DF people and now this? A religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?

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JW renaming things: "It's Not this, it's ....."

by Muddy Waters in

this was brought up in another thread, but i thought it should have its own thread.

feel free to add your own observations and experience.

the jws are so duplicit, and they rename things to somehow justify their own irrationalities.

pale.emperor

...and by the way (according a video at the 2017 RC) the JW repentant sinner has to sit at the back of the Kingdom Hall and face further segregation and humiliation during that year-long reinstatement process!

Seriously? Has anyone got a video/sound recording of this?

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What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

by Jules Saturn in

what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

are you a born again christian?

have you joined another denomination of christianity?

pale.emperor

You are the second exJW that has said they have embraced Buddhist philosophy in their life, I wonder if it would help me find some peace?

It will. As i said, im not a Buddhist, nor do i believe in reincarnation or karma but somethings the Buddha said are remarkable similar to Jesus and he predates him by hundreds of years.

I highly recommend this book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Teachings-Buddha-Jack-Kornfield/dp/1590305086

Take what you like from it and use it, discard which you dont feel you agree with. You'll go through life a lot more relaxed and calm.

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conventions...

by zeb in

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friends

ah yes the convention is approaching.

wife is squirreled away with her wt books, her laptop and the tablet thing ..even at meals.. conversation is a word or two and not often.

spoken to.. doesn't answer.. and on return it will be grumps on for at least a week.. anyone else know this phenomenon?.

My ex is over the top "happy". Almost as if she's trying to convince me that she's "happy" and "really looking forward to the convention" even though i never asked her. It's obvious to me that she'd rather stay at home or go shopping or do something fun instead of having to attend the three day waste of time called The Convention.

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What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

by Jules Saturn in

what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

are you a born again christian?

have you joined another denomination of christianity?

pale.emperor

I ask these questions because of a conversation I had once with my father who said "If none of this is true, then there is no truth."

Oh my word, this is almost exactly what i used to say too!

I used to say "if the JWs are wrong, then there is no Christianity". Meaning the one true Christianity is what JWs are teaching. Everything else is wrong.

How closed minded and presumptuous of me. When i woke up i still believed in God. I decided to read the bible on its own, not the NWT, a real translation. New International Version. I spent months reading it in my spare time. I highlighted verses that i thought were inspiring in one colour and ones i didn't understand in another colour and would look into these in more detail using Bible encyclopedias. When i finished my conclusion was that the bible is a mass of contradiction. I saw Jesus as a narcissist, cult leader or conman. Absolutely no evidence outside of the bible of Jesus performing any miracle. I saw Paul as someone who took a little cult and turned it into his own bigger cult. I saw the old testament as a vicious, cruel, desert God that is actually more like a devil. I saw Satan as the more understandable character - in opposition to this cruel desert God.

Then i read The Teachings Of The Buddha. This is very interesting book. I'm not a Buddhist but i have incorporated at least half of Buddhist philosophy into my life. I studied Hinduism, Tao, Confucianism, read Nietzsche, Richard Dawkins and The Satanic Bible. The books that had the biggest effect on me was The Satanic Bible and The God Delusion. Those two really did destroy and semblance of a belief in any God and that's where i started to live without fear, regret or guilt.

I also listened/watched Tony Robbins, studied NLP, Hypnosis and listened to philosopher Alan Watts.

This is my recovery programme which i'd recommend any ex-JW to embark on. It's probably why i managed to recover from 100% militant JW to free and easy, guilt free, happy apostate within a year.

I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would become a born again christian. To me they seem like the most deluded of all the so-called Christian religions. Love god or he'll burn you? Please. Sounds like an abusive mentally ill father to me. I say fuck him.

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Lessons learned from the wife of lot drama

by purrpurr in

the video drama shown at the recent comvention was called "the wife of lot".

i noticed some stuble lessons being taught in this soap opera style video.... firstly, all the bad influence comes from women, its the wife and the mother in law whose pushing for more money and a better lifestyle.

while the men remain loyal to god, can't show the men going astray now can we?.

pale.emperor

Who was the "joey from Friends" character? I missed that.

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Lessons learned from the wife of lot drama

by purrpurr in

the video drama shown at the recent comvention was called "the wife of lot".

i noticed some stuble lessons being taught in this soap opera style video.... firstly, all the bad influence comes from women, its the wife and the mother in law whose pushing for more money and a better lifestyle.

while the men remain loyal to god, can't show the men going astray now can we?.

pale.emperor

I found the acting quite over the top. I mean, didnt the Asian actors/actresses feel like they were being characterized? The way the mother in law calls her daughters promotion "big money job". What?

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My jaw dropping OMG moment at the end of the convention

by UnshackleTheChains in

yes folks.

over the past few days i can honestly say the convention was relatively quite good.

most of the talks, videos, symposiums were in line with scripture if you have faith in the bible.

pale.emperor

By the way Pale Emperor will add one more next year , partakers fell for decades then this reversal, it must have the boys on the boardroom of Warwick worried.

You're right Chook. I'll be turning up and eating and drinking. Just to annoy the hell out of them. May even give some of the bread to my little girl too.

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BBC Radio News Report On Pedophile Elder Allowed To Cross Examine His Victim

by pale.emperor in

https://youtu.be/jmolpaclsca.

pale.emperor

https://youtu.be/jMoLPACLScA

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"It Wouldnt Be Possible Without The Holy Spirit" - And Why Today I Learned Why That's A Load Of Crap

by pale.emperor in

remember when we were jws and we'd hear from the platform, in conventions and on jw broadcasting that the things jws have achieved could only be possible with the help of the holy spirit?

yeah, well, i used to believe that when i was "in".

since leaving we all know this is bs, but today a simple, non religious, conversation lead me to see how stupid their claim is.. in my attempt to meet people and make friends i joined an international meetup group online a few months ago.

pale.emperor

Remember when we were JWs and we'd hear from the platform, in conventions and on JW Broadcasting that the things JWs have achieved could only be possible with the help of the holy spirit? Yeah, well, i used to believe that when i was "in".

Since leaving we all know this is BS, but today a simple, non religious, conversation lead me to see how stupid their claim is.

In my attempt to meet people and make friends i joined an international meetup group online a few months ago. It's made up of expats who've moved to the UK for work/study and they don't know anybody and hope to make friends. So ideal for a shunned Jehovah's Witness. Plus i love foreign languages so it's a double whammy for me. I've went along to a few meetups and met some great people from all around the world and made lots of friends. Today there was a meetup scheduled in town (it's Gay Pride weekend here in Liverpool, a major street party atmosphere), i didnt stay out long as i was with my little girl but i dropped by to say hi to my friends. There were a few new faces and i made friends with them quickly.

There were two Chinese girls there. Their English was impeccable. We got talking and it turns out they both work for the museum in China that houses and maintains the terracotta army. They were here for 6 months to improve their English (not that it needed improving in my opinion) and to assist the British Museum in some fancy-pants restorations. So, two very interesting girls regardless of their beauty (and they were beautiful).

Now, I'd heard of the Terracotta Army before, didn't really give it much thought. It's like when you hear about the pyramids of Egypt or of the Incas, you just thing "hmm, yeah, impressive". But when i asked about their work they really made me realize the scope of what this Emperor Huang did.

Try this guys:

8,000 soldiers

130 chariots

670 horses

400 acrobats

500 strongmen

140 generals

300 officials

400 magicians

All sculpted out of terracotta to the likeness of real people back in the day. And for what? So they would protect and serve the emperor in the afterlife.

Impressed? There's more! Each one was painted too. Each item of clothing, each face, each eye, every little detail.

Now, maybe it's just me, but i think that's WAY more impressive that printing magazines and books in so many languages. More impressive than a religion existing in 90% of countries and more impressive than JW Broadcasting. If the JWs can boast that their work could only be possible with the holy spirit then the holy spirit must have been active here too. Because this is something out of this world.

Actually, if you think about it, 8 million JWs and printing literature isnt so much of a big deal. Any publishing company in the world could replicate what the JWs print if they wanted to. The point is, they dont want to. It's just not profitable... unless of course you have 8 million people "honoring Jehovah with their valuable things".

Read more about it here if you want: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terracotta_Army