Posts by pale.emperor

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I'll Be Walking Into The Convention Arena Today

by pale.emperor in

i work in the city, the liverpool convention is this weekend.

what better way to spend my lunch hour than pop over to the liverpool echo arena and see my daughter.

im in jeans, tshirt, adidas tracksuit jacket and worldly beard.

pale.emperor

I work in the city, the Liverpool convention is this weekend. What better way to spend my lunch hour than pop over to the Liverpool Echo Arena and see my daughter. Im in jeans, tshirt, adidas tracksuit jacket and worldly beard. Let's hope they try and accost me on my way in;)

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boyfriends jehovah witness mom

by whatisthis12 in

my boyfriend is an ex new jehovah witness and today i got a message from one of his friends asking if i could delete a comment he wrote on one of my pictures because my boyfriends mom is harassing him about it.

he also basically told me that she has people who added me just to view my profile and let her know!!!!

she also sends him messages and pictures from the watchtower.

pale.emperor

This Facebook stalking thing is very common here in the UK with exJWs. Our families and former friends shun us and want nothing to do with us but they just have to know everything of what we're doing, then they blow it out of proportion, make up a story and gossip around.

Check your FB privacy settings and make it as tight as possible. Look on the moms profile and see which friends are "in common" and there's your spy. Block him/her.

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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter

by pale.emperor in

trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).

my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.

that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.

pale.emperor

Holy shit! Your mother and in-laws are whacked in the fuggin' head!!!! Seeing as how these ass-clowns are still your blood relatives, I'd take my ass right on over there, and call them right out on their "inappropriate, disgusting behaviour!!!" They'd be given a dressing down from me like they've never had in their lives!! Who da fuq do these people think they are? I'd seriously bitch-slap someone.

O.K. Now for my rant- If I was in that house after your brother in law interrogated your daughter - he would have been missing a face after that party. I would have slammed his ass up against a hallway wall and said, " listen jack ass - if you EVER try to manipulate my daughter against me again by coercion of her mind - you're going to WISH the resurrection was a reality " . ( I probably wouldn't say that - but it's what I'd like to say )

Believe me, i WANT to do those things. But i know how it'll be painted. The "vicious" apostate that came to our house and threatened us with anger and rage. Surely Satan has him.

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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter

by pale.emperor in

trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).

my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.

that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.

pale.emperor

Trust me, if my ex could leave the cult right now she would. Her JW friends have little to do with her because she's not in "the clique". Her "worldly" friend is genuinely there for her and they hang out a lot. Our daughters are best friends. So come Christmas time i can see my ex secretly doing it with this worldly friend for the kids sake.

I've mentioned in previous posts that she doesn't believe the religion anymore but cant leave. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6227281955520512/my-ex-wife-calls-me-last-night-advice

She still lives with her parents and her elder dad pretty much controls her. He thinks he helping but he is in fact controlling. When we were together he used to interfere all the time, checking my bills, asking how much i earn, asking where im going, what im doing etc. I dont think he trusts people to be "good" on their own.

At first my ex thought i was full of s^it talking about the cult. Until she noticed the hypocrisy and my genuine happiness outside of the cult. I think she wants what i have. I genuinely hope she can leave sooner rather than later and be happy.

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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter

by pale.emperor in

trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).

my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.

that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.

pale.emperor

PE, Right now you feel like you could ring the necks of the parents of those snotty little kids.Your anger is completely justified. As awful as the experience was for your daughter, it was surely worse for your ex. After all, these are the very people she is trying to please by staying "in". Hopefully, this incident will be enough to help her see the harmful effects the cult has on innocent children and leave her "comfort zone" for your daughter's sake if not her own.

It's very obvious that as soon as her parents die she'll leave WT forever. She has a "worldly" friend that she's become very good friends with that has blown all that "bad association" crap out of the water. I just think it's a shame that she's willing to wait 30-40 years before living a life true to herself.

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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter

by pale.emperor in

trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).

my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.

that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.

pale.emperor

Would probably be interesting to know how your wife's elder father explained that away?

"It's just kids being kids. They shouldnt do that although... if her dad was a Jehovah's Witness it wouldnt have happened. Just saying..." I asked this question to her mum on the phone after you posted it.

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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter

by pale.emperor in

trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).

my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.

that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.

pale.emperor

Trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.

My little 3yo attends meetings with her JW mum (who doesn't believe Watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help). My mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren. That's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo. My daughter actually didn't receive and invite but my ex-wife naturally assumed that of course she'd be invited, mother probably just forgot to send the card to her address. So my ex turns up at my mums house with my little girl who's dressed up in a new dress excited to her the nana that hasn't bothered with her in a whole year.

What happened for the rest of the evening surprised even my ex-wife. This is what i was told:

When the door opened my sister was standing there. She said "oh!" and looked surprised, went back into the house, whispered something to someone and my mum and my mums husband came to the door. The were polite but said "we didnt know you'd be coming" (translation: you wernt invited, who told you about this party?). They let her in anyway, and my ex was slightly confused but shrugged it off as probably her misinterpreting what just happened. Inside theres tables full of food, cake, sweets, in the garden there's a bouncy castle and kids from various congregations running around playing with eachother. Other JWs from the congregation i grew up in and parents etc.

She puts my little girl down and off she runs to play. My sisters and their husbands (one's recently been promoted to MS so he's a bit up himself (this is the same guy who has a pornography addiction that the elders dont know about)). They tell her "it's nice to see you. We didnt know you'd be here. How are you, how's <my daughter>?". They catch up. My MS brother in law asks "i hear Mark doesnt go to the meetings. Does he tell <daughter> that the religion is wrong?". To her credit she told them "Mark is an atheist. He doesnt talk about religion unless you specifically ask him". They scoffed and said i cant possibly be an atheist because i know "the truth". She told them "No, he really is. When i ask him about God in general he has answers for not believing".

Im told the rest of the evening was uncomfortable because she was clearly not made to feel welcome. She goes into the garden and our daughter is on her own in her new dress but the other kids wont play with her. She's upset because when she tried to join in, they take their toys and walk away from her. Then one of the kids told her "no one likes you because you dont love Jehovah". My daughter doesnt even know who/what Jehovah is. The kid who said it, her mum told the kid off for saying it but it was clear, according to my ex, the the JWs there had been briefed that this little girl is the daughter of an apostate. Why else would kids who've just met her say that? One of my neices said "go away, you're not our friend". This seemed to be the final straw for my little one and she was found quietly crying inside the house on her own. My MS brother in law even walked past her crying and ignored her. So my ex picked our girl up and left. No one seen her to the door, no one said goodbye, no one even noticed. My mum didn't even speak to my little girl. Her cousins didnt play with her either.

Later, there's a knock on my door. I open it and it's my little girl and her mum. She goes "DADDYYYYYYY!!!!" and sticks her arms out. "What a surprise!" i say. My ex tells me the story. Im absolutely livid. I have my daughter for the evening and overnight. She knows who loves her unconditionally. She tells me "You're my best friend". I tell her that's right. and we have a dance. We play games etc and as im doing some work in the garden i bring out some pots and pans and we make a drumset. She's banging away with some sticks and sings this song:

https://youtu.be/5yrTxYZR9-8

She's been told that some people dont like her. She refers to my mother as "the nana that doesn't like me?" (meaning her, not me). At 3yo she already knows what it's like to be shunned and excluded for something that is out of her control. Even my ex was shocked. She's not taking her there again.

This is bullying. Absolutely no excuse for behavior like that. Me and my little girl have a rule, we're nice to everyone. Regardless of race, religion or anything else. So far it's done us good.

It's unfortunate that she had to learn exclusion and sadness from "Jehovah's people".

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CounselIling for Ex Cult Members

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

i wanted to ask those of you who were born into the jws and eventually left as an adult, whether any of you have had any counselling?

i know from experience that being programmed by a cult since birth does not give us the social skills and knowledge to function and interact with people in the outside world as we were taught to avoid it.

those of you that have had counselling, do you feel that it has helped you?

pale.emperor

Hi

I never went to counseling but i im actually studying in university to become a councilor. So far i've noticed that those who still feel tied to it or guilty etc are those who still have some belief in the WT teachings.

By personal experience i found that learning as much as you can about their lies, cover ups and false teachings washes away any beliefs i once had. When they're gone the healing can begin.

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August 1, 2017 BOE Re: Using and Maintaining Kingdom Halls

by wifibandit in

august 1, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: using and maintaining kingdom halls.

us.

uk.

pale.emperor

Regardless of whose name is on the title, you don't really own the KH. The legal owner cannot make any decision on the KH.
Although de facto you're not the owner, we expect you to pay for and perform maintenance and repairs yourself.
Make sure you have enough money to pay for maintenance and repairs.
If you have more than enough money for maintenance and repairs make sure to send it to us.

I noticed this too! What a con!

Imagine if Jehovah or the Watchtower Society showed the same level of care and interest in children as they do in real estate and money.

I know. They'd have the best child protection program in the world.

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Latest Study Watchtower - JW's NEED to confess to elders

by The Fall Guy in

watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.

) why is this so important?

first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!

pale.emperor

I read one bible commentary that said that this verse is talking about literally sick people. Like those needing to be healed. And that they believed prayers of others could make them well. Notice that sins being forgiven is tacked on at the end as a side note. The main point of this scripture is about healing the sick.