I've taken one in the British Museum. Some Bethelites had a side thing going where they'd do a bible tour for a "contribution". At the time i was a JW and found it informative and interesting. But looking back i now realize he was just showing us ancient Egyptian/Babylonian things that are mentioned in the bible, it doesn't prove the existence of Moses or the red sea incident.
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Anyone taken the Metropolitan Museum of Art JW tour, "The Woman and Her Offspring"?
by Cadellin inthese are apparently private tours by jws (pios who do it for a "contribution," i believe), who highlight the "historical evidence" for various bible events or prophecies.
there are a variety of themes, but i had a relative just take one on the woman and the seed/offspring (is "offspring" the new word for jws?).
she thought it was the most amazing thing since sliced bread but i was curious if anyone here has taken one and what their take is....
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I'll Be Walking Into The Convention Arena Today
by pale.emperor ini work in the city, the liverpool convention is this weekend.
what better way to spend my lunch hour than pop over to the liverpool echo arena and see my daughter.
im in jeans, tshirt, adidas tracksuit jacket and worldly beard.
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You're right. Security is stepped up (which is good actually). Although it's real security, not yellow jacket boy that is "reaching out". They've got plastic boxes with what looks like those electronic body search things you see in the airport.
I have to chuckle to myself though:
One of the "cool" cliques is right in front of me. He's in a suit, sunglassses and converse trainers. The girls have short skirts. I give them 2 years before they leave the cult.
Usual douche bag in a white suit.
Quite a few beards here.
One girl has blue hair (she's brave!) looked good though.
Costa Coffee round the corner rammed with JWs in their badges, non JWs wondering whats going on. Im hearing Manchester accents, which is strange because the Manchester one is being held here in a few weeks.
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I'll Be Walking Into The Convention Arena Today
by pale.emperor ini work in the city, the liverpool convention is this weekend.
what better way to spend my lunch hour than pop over to the liverpool echo arena and see my daughter.
im in jeans, tshirt, adidas tracksuit jacket and worldly beard.
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I have been informed by two trusted JW sources that 2 sisters at different conventions - one in England and one in Scotland - were refused entry to the arenas because they didn't have lapel badges!
Be prepared P.E.
Anyone else experienced this?
I'm prepared...
"Excuse me but isn't this convention open to the public?"
"Wern't you all giving out invitations all over town?"
"Do you own this arena?"
"Are you attempting to stop me seeing my daughter?"
"I'm told this is a wonderful meeting with spiritual food. I've come to enjoy it too."
If all fails I'll just go in through the far left entrance which is for conferences, meetings etc and walk right into the area from there.
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Who can guess the number closest to memorial partakers ?
by Chook inmy punt 16144 , do you like my last three numbers !.
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When I was a jobo, the numbers of 'partakers(tm)' reducing, was seen as a positive sign the end was near. Now, do the new figures mean the end did come and we missed it? Probably an invisible end...oooh, matron.
Do they still publish 'partakers(tm)' these days, sorry, I'm really out of the jobo loop these days.
what about 17 (for the year) and 144 (like Chook) = 17,144
Im told in a recent talk given in the convention, that we're to not take any real notice about the number of memorial partakers because the majority of those taking part are mistaken or mentally ill. Nice. Of course the governing body arnt mentally ill or deluded, no, they really are anointed.
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Who can guess the number closest to memorial partakers ?
by Chook inmy punt 16144 , do you like my last three numbers !.
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Considering the trend in 2000, my guess is 19,460.
If we break the 20 thousand mark it'll be hilarious. Since the beginning of Christianity there's only been 144,000 anointed Christians? That works out at approximately 75 people per year since Jesus death. I'll bet my life that in the first century there were more than 75 people partaking of the emblems. So Paul was writing only to 75 people???
2000 8,661
2001 8,730
2002 8,760
2003 8,565
2004 8,570
2005 8,524
2006 8,758
2007 9,105
2008 9,986
2009 10,857
2010 11,202
2011 11,824
2012 12,604
2013 13,204
2014 14,121
2015 15,177
2016 18,013
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I'll Be Walking Into The Convention Arena Today
by pale.emperor ini work in the city, the liverpool convention is this weekend.
what better way to spend my lunch hour than pop over to the liverpool echo arena and see my daughter.
im in jeans, tshirt, adidas tracksuit jacket and worldly beard.
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I work in the city, the Liverpool convention is this weekend. What better way to spend my lunch hour than pop over to the Liverpool Echo Arena and see my daughter. Im in jeans, tshirt, adidas tracksuit jacket and worldly beard. Let's hope they try and accost me on my way in;)
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boyfriends jehovah witness mom
by whatisthis12 inmy boyfriend is an ex new jehovah witness and today i got a message from one of his friends asking if i could delete a comment he wrote on one of my pictures because my boyfriends mom is harassing him about it.
he also basically told me that she has people who added me just to view my profile and let her know!!!!
she also sends him messages and pictures from the watchtower.
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This Facebook stalking thing is very common here in the UK with exJWs. Our families and former friends shun us and want nothing to do with us but they just have to know everything of what we're doing, then they blow it out of proportion, make up a story and gossip around.
Check your FB privacy settings and make it as tight as possible. Look on the moms profile and see which friends are "in common" and there's your spy. Block him/her.
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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter
by pale.emperor intrying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).
my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.
that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.
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Holy shit! Your mother and in-laws are whacked in the fuggin' head!!!! Seeing as how these ass-clowns are still your blood relatives, I'd take my ass right on over there, and call them right out on their "inappropriate, disgusting behaviour!!!" They'd be given a dressing down from me like they've never had in their lives!! Who da fuq do these people think they are? I'd seriously bitch-slap someone.
O.K. Now for my rant- If I was in that house after your brother in law interrogated your daughter - he would have been missing a face after that party. I would have slammed his ass up against a hallway wall and said, " listen jack ass - if you EVER try to manipulate my daughter against me again by coercion of her mind - you're going to WISH the resurrection was a reality " . ( I probably wouldn't say that - but it's what I'd like to say )
Believe me, i WANT to do those things. But i know how it'll be painted. The "vicious" apostate that came to our house and threatened us with anger and rage. Surely Satan has him.
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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter
by pale.emperor intrying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).
my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.
that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.
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pale.emperor
Trust me, if my ex could leave the cult right now she would. Her JW friends have little to do with her because she's not in "the clique". Her "worldly" friend is genuinely there for her and they hang out a lot. Our daughters are best friends. So come Christmas time i can see my ex secretly doing it with this worldly friend for the kids sake.
I've mentioned in previous posts that she doesn't believe the religion anymore but cant leave. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6227281955520512/my-ex-wife-calls-me-last-night-advice
She still lives with her parents and her elder dad pretty much controls her. He thinks he helping but he is in fact controlling. When we were together he used to interfere all the time, checking my bills, asking how much i earn, asking where im going, what im doing etc. I dont think he trusts people to be "good" on their own.
At first my ex thought i was full of s^it talking about the cult. Until she noticed the hypocrisy and my genuine happiness outside of the cult. I think she wants what i have. I genuinely hope she can leave sooner rather than later and be happy.
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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter
by pale.emperor intrying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).
my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.
that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.
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PE, Right now you feel like you could ring the necks of the parents of those snotty little kids.Your anger is completely justified. As awful as the experience was for your daughter, it was surely worse for your ex. After all, these are the very people she is trying to please by staying "in". Hopefully, this incident will be enough to help her see the harmful effects the cult has on innocent children and leave her "comfort zone" for your daughter's sake if not her own.
It's very obvious that as soon as her parents die she'll leave WT forever. She has a "worldly" friend that she's become very good friends with that has blown all that "bad association" crap out of the water. I just think it's a shame that she's willing to wait 30-40 years before living a life true to herself.
