How awesome is this? Fellow forum member Zeb cheered my daugher up by sending her a present all the way from AUSTRALIA!!
She has a message for you...
trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).
my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.
that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.
How awesome is this? Fellow forum member Zeb cheered my daugher up by sending her a present all the way from AUSTRALIA!!
She has a message for you...
on my way into town from my office.
two carts set up a few feet from each other.
one manned by a man and woman (i assume they're a couple) in their late 30s.. the guys walks off to the other cart as im walking by, i wasn't going to approach but the woman holding the awake!
To be honest, i was expecting more of a debate. JWs seem to be really slipping with theology. No bible was brought out, they didnt ask me thought provoking questions.
Were we that shit and just never noticed it at the time?
on my way into town from my office.
two carts set up a few feet from each other.
one manned by a man and woman (i assume they're a couple) in their late 30s.. the guys walks off to the other cart as im walking by, i wasn't going to approach but the woman holding the awake!
The stoning to death of homosexuals, those who worked on Saturday, men who shaved their beards, those who planted two types of seed in the same field, slavery, oppression of women, genocide... but it was different back then.
That sure told me!
on my way into town from my office.
two carts set up a few feet from each other.
one manned by a man and woman (i assume they're a couple) in their late 30s.. the guys walks off to the other cart as im walking by, i wasn't going to approach but the woman holding the awake!
On my way into town from my office. Two carts set up a few feet from each other. One manned by a man and woman (i assume they're a couple) in their late 30s.
The guys walks off to the other cart as im walking by, i wasn't going to approach but the woman holding the Awake! mags smiles and said hello. I said hello and ended up stopping and took the mag (give her day a boost by putting 1 mag on her report slip).
This woman would not stop talking. Man, i was expecting a secret TV crew to be filming a joke on me or something. She went over the bible being inspired, the world is evil, we need direction, we need Jehovah, other religions dont do this etc etc. Thankfully the man came back and interrupted.
I tried to keep it short and polite and said "im an atheist, i dont like that the bible condones slavery..."
The man became offended and quite annoyed in his tone "slavery? Where does the bible condone slavery?"
I said "have you read the bible?"
He flipped out "yes i've read the bible, i've studied to for 20 years. Have you?!!"
I said i studied it for 32 years :) I asked him who Hagar was? She wasnt Abrahams wife. He said "she was a servent. Anyone's allowed to have a servent". I asked if she was paid, and who was the father of her child Ishamel.
The woman interrupted and said it was different back then.
The man told her "i was talking there, do you mind?" she backed away.
Then followed a monologue of how "the truth™" has changed his life and he could be earning money but instead he's living "the best life ever™".
I asked him "compared to what?"
He said compared to what everyone else has. I told him he cant possibly know what everyone else has, or what they want or what they consider to be "the best".
He shut down the conversation. The woman gave me the Bible Teach book (i put it in the nearest public bin).
As i walked away i heard him say to the woman "that's an example of what i mean, i was talking and you..." the rest was inaudible as i walked on.
in my stand up comedy routine tonight i want to list humourous reasons why i shd go back to jws.. how about nobody throws parties like jws.. how about jws being at the cutting edge of fashion.. how about it being easier for men to get a date.. any ideas?.
paul.
Some people get sexually aroused by being bossed around and told they're scum. Suppose a masochist could join up and get positively giddy being controlled and micro-managed by a window washer and a bus driver.
interesting observations i've noticed when visiting my uber elder cousin and his wife.
he just inherited a lovely home on the water on puget sound from his non jw dad who passed away earlier this year.
so they have spent many $$$ and months remodeling this house to their standards which are quite expensive tastes.
"Why would you want to go to University? Armageddon will be here soon!" - My mum 15 years ago.
"Why would you want to save all that money for two years to tour America? Give it to the org, Armageddon will be here soon!" - My mum 13 years ago.
"Why would you want to buy a house? Armageddon will be here soon!" - My mum 8 years ago.
"Why would you leave "the truth™" now?!! Armageddon will be here soon!" - My mum 1 year ago.
Needless to say, my old mum has zero savings, zero pension to rely on when she's older, no house of her own, no career, and the big A doesn't seem any closer than it was when she was baptized up 41 years ago.
Maybe she hopes Watchtower will look after her in her old age? I would, but unfortunately for her I'm dead to her now so...
so my aunt hates pcs but works in a office job and uses a pc to do work she has worked there for 23 years she taking me and my brothers laptops etc and she said i have to earn it doing jw things studying listening at meetings etc.. so if it is the last time i post hear i thank you all for you have told me i wish the all of you the best life you can have.i will try to post hear this will start when im in school..
she taking me and my brothers laptops etc and she said i have to earn it doing jw things studying listening at meetings etc.
Yeah, this doesn't sound like a cult at all does it?
interesting observations i've noticed when visiting my uber elder cousin and his wife.
he just inherited a lovely home on the water on puget sound from his non jw dad who passed away earlier this year.
so they have spent many $$$ and months remodeling this house to their standards which are quite expensive tastes.
I dont think any JW actually believes Armageddon is imminent. More like a decade away or something like that. It's like that old saying "tomorrow never comes".
on sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.
when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?
i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.
Long story short. Jesus was a cult leader.
the following 1,200 word article is from chat magazine - a popular british weekly women's magazine with a circulation of approximately 225,000 copies which makes it around the 4th most popular women's weekly.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/chat_(magazine).
the same experience (but a different article) appeared in may 2017 in the british newspapers the sunday mirror / the daily record - see my post below which also includes related links with more background information:.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5117651812614144/uk-daily-mirror-girl-who-abused-dad-5-years-asked-jws-help-but-got-molested-church-elder-too.
Great article. Thanks for sharing.