Posts by pale.emperor

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Waking up to TTATT: Blessing or Curse?

by Jules Saturn in

if you take the red pill, you'll have knowledge, you'll be awakened, aware of reality, you'll have freedom.. if you take the blue pill, you stay in your bubble, wearing rose colored glasses, and feel security in an illusion.. taking the red pill isn't something that's easy to do.

to accept that everything around you is an illusion built up on lies or half truths.

but hey, it might feel good to be aware and break free from this illusion.

pale.emperor

I remember one of my first posts on here called "Feeling sad after learning the truth about the truth".

I was miserable as JW. I was raised in it, my entire family were JWs, parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, cousins... everyone. Yet i was very much alone. I had no friends because i just wast into this "fake joy" they're all doing. I was the only one that openly acknowledge that the door to door ministry is a drudge, a bore, a waste of time. No one seemed to be on my level even when i was a 100% devoted believer.

I will always want the truth. No matter how painful, how hard or how sad. And i think it's important to always test to see if what you have is actually true. If more evidence and facts come to light investigate them. Dont ignore them.

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JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

pale.emperor

Why did the anointed remnant at one time think they were the faithful and discreet slave?

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An unusual question

by no-zombie in

jw
friends

i have an unusual question.. and it is ... who actually owns and runs this site?.

with no ads ... how does it keep going?.

no-zombie.

pale.emperor

Simon runs the site. Im bombarded with my last ebay searches on the right hand column and a FREE* bible offer at the top of the page.

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A "Three-fold cord"?

by stuckinarut2 in

we all know of the well used scripture that speaks of "a three-fold cord" in marriage.. sure, it is meant to indicate that any marriage that has "god" in it as the foundation of the couple's life will be successful.

but how often have we noticed that what it really means for witnesses is that the society, or the gb has the right to be an unwelcome and nosey intruder in the lives of couples.

every decision that family unit makes is influenced by the organisation.

pale.emperor

I thought this shortly after i got married and noticed how the elders would take an unwelcome interest in whatever my then-wife or i were doing.

It's not normal. It's very much a cult giving themselves permission to override whatever it is you want to do.

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JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

pale.emperor

If Jesus, after examining all religions on earth, chose the Watchtower Society in 1919 and declared it clean. Then inst any "new light" since then actually... apostasy? Who are these men to refine something Jesus himself called clean?

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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

by mrmagic in

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

pale.emperor

As i've said earlier, i cant sit through a single one of their videos. BUT they could just do their videos without including JW videos cant they? Lloyd Evans has managed to include videos and stay active citing its for the purpose of "criticism and/or parody".

The few videos that i've done are just me talking to the camera and occasionally including book/magazine facsimiles on screen or audio recordings of talks. So far the worst i get is JWs telling me im going to die in armageddon. No Watchtower interference so far.

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Elders meet with Pioneers & Missionaries Dec 2017- Jan 2018

by wifibandit in

elders meet with regular pioneers, special pioneers, and field missionaries program for december 2017 through january 2018 s-211-18-e 9/17.

pale.emperor

Oh dear.

Let's not look at the thing we left behind? Thankfully i never pioneered (except for the waste of time campaigns before the conventions) but the young brothers who did pioneer all worked for a JW gardener who worked them like slaves. Im sure they'll be in this meeting evaluating how their life has panned out. 25yo, minimum wage, getting barked at by a JW elder at work, slogging that ministry bag around in all weathers while your peers are going out, having fun, meeting people and enjoying their youth.

Cant wait for this house of cards called JW.borg to collapse.

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Parents who try to make you feel guilty.

by NJ501 in

when parents say all the things we've done for you and your not doing anything for us in return like going to meetings, witnessing, answering up etc... how do you respond to parents?.

pale.emperor

The first two months after I DA'd was the hardest part. I see notes on the table :
"Do you know your mom is crying because you left?"
"The family can no longer be happy because of what you did."
The most heart wrenching for me was when I see my mom crying in the morning while reading the daily text. In the past, I will be with her discussing the day text...

You are not responsible for how others react. It's the religion that has turned them into this.

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Parents who try to make you feel guilty.

by NJ501 in

when parents say all the things we've done for you and your not doing anything for us in return like going to meetings, witnessing, answering up etc... how do you respond to parents?.

pale.emperor

I've had this in the form of "what would your dad say?" (my dad died when i was 19).

My reply is "my dad had no tolerance for pedophiles, child molesters or those who protect them. If he knew what i knew he'd have left too".

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JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

pale.emperor

Hi guys. Sooner or later we're going to get a JW knocking on our door. Just like when we were JW's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

So, if you could ask just on question to get them thinking or make them see that their religion is wrong what one would you use?

Here's mine:

Is shunning an identifying mark of Christianity? If so, who did Jesus shun?

Is it possible that Paul started his own brand of Christianity? Different from that of say Apollos or the apostles? Because 1 Corinthians 3:4 say "For when one says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," are you not mere human beings?".

Did Moses, Elijah, Isaiah or any other prophet ever have to wait on New Light?

Was Lot disfellowshipped for getting drunk and having sex with his daughters?

Should he have been?

[Regarding blood transfusions] Is a symbol of life more important that an actual life?