i start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.
he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).
he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.
Mothers Day is celebrated in America in the month of May.
Also, WWI started in July 1914.
Seeing that Satan was, allegedly, booted out of his heavenly abode in October 1914 this just doesn't add up. You dont have to be Stephen Lett to be able to do the math.
Back to the drawing board Mr Rutherford.
since the advent of the trolleys do the majority of jws still go door to door like we used to?.
do they still have meetings for field service on sat mornings and sun afternoons where most head off to the local territory while one or two go to do trolley work or has the importance of door to door work reduced?.
with the reduction of printing wts and awakes what will they offer at the doors?.
I've lived in my new house for 11 months now. No JW knows my address (apart from my ex-wife), and im in another congregations territory anyway. I've not had a JW call here. Nor did i get an invitation for the memorial or convention through my letterbox. It's a good thing they dont have a lifesaving message or they'd have blood on their hands at armageddon.
Pathetic. Always on a timetable. Always focusing on the hours and all personal interest is lost.
My ex-mother in law has this down to an art form. She gets out there at 7am, hands a crumpled leaflet to Mr Rashid at the corner shop who promptly bins them because he's just being polite. Then goes back home, handing another leaflet to any passer by, has her breakfast, goes to the group study, out on the ministry again at 10am and, apparently, that means she's been on the ministry for 3 hours already before she's even knocked on a door.
Pathetic indeed. Imagine owning a business and your staff doing that.
i start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.
he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).
he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.
It's hard to overstate how important the "vindication" doctrine was to JWs at one time.
I was only 11yo at the time the the vindication teaching was dropped so i dont remember it being a big deal to me. But now that you mention it i remember as a family studying the Watchtower on Saturday evening and my dad getting exasperated at us kids not getting the point "WHY did Jesus come to earth?", we were making wild guesses trying to get the right answer and my sister suddenly shouted "to VINDICATE Jehovah's name!" and my dad said "Yes! Finally! haha".
So it seems my dad still clung to the vindication angle. At least at that time.
i start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.
he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).
he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.
sanctify:
verbset apart as or declare holy; consecrate.free from sin; purify.
Wouldn't Jehovah's name already be "holy", "free from sin"and not needing to be "purified"?
this post was published today, some strange changes within jw.org.
https://jwvictims.org/2017/10/08/watchtowers-annual-meeting-announces-more-odd-decreases-in-literature-and-online-content/.
YESSSSSSS!!
This has made my year. Watchtower is in panic mode. This is the business equivalent of a body shutting down its organs as it fights to survive. I know what comes next, heart failure, brain death then flatline.......................
at warwick there is a gazebo overlooking the lake.
it's a nice peaceful setting.
well someone had the bright idea they were going to propose while they were at warwick.
Maybe I'm confused here but who's funds paid for that gazebo?
i'm at the recorded meeting right now.
trying to hide my disgust sitting up front listening to geoffrey jackson quibble about the pharisaical minutai of sanctification vs. vindication.
the audience is thrilled that they now have 'permission' to say god's name can be vindicated.
Can somebody explain to me what the sanctification/vindication thing is all about please?
I'm a Born in, left at age 31 and this is new to me.
i know wifibandit will post the pdf soon, this is just a snack for you guys and girls.... .
It seems that Jehovah doesnt understand how the human brain works or how we learn. Studies show* we retain more information when we study in 20min bursts, have a 5min break doing something fun, then another 20min learning etc etc.
Look at the length of those talks without a break. No wonder we all fell asleep in those conventions.
*https://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/LEARN/LEARN17.html
how often did we as witnesses say something like this : "unlike members of false religion, who venerate or worship through statues or idols, we give our focus to jehovah!".
members of religious groups focus their religious adoration via an image or statue.
they do this in order to provide some sort of focus to their need to worship.. witnesses give extreme focus on the name "jehovah" .
What's next?Temple prostitutes?
That might just being me back!
i thought this during my wake up.
if you think about it, jehovahs promise for the faithful is actually a bum deal.
some would even say a con.
