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  THIS Is How JWs Feel About The Cut In Magazines And Content

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i asked the question on quora "how do jehovah's witnesses feel about the announcement that the public edition of the watchtower and awake!

  magazine is being reduced to just 3 issues a year and the number of books, tracts, and online content are being discontinued?".

  https://www.quora.com/how-do-jehovahs-witnesses-feel-about-the-announcement-that-the-public-edition-of-the-watchtower-and-awake-magazine-is-being-reduced-to-just-3-issues-a-year-and-the-number-of-books-tracts-and-online-content-are-being-discontinued.

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  Were you actually expecting active JWs to put in writing how they may really feel about it? The act of writing becomes a serious filter for those living in high-control groups.

  I knew they'd put a positive spin on it. I was hoping they'd give me an indication of how they personally are processing it positively. I remember when they reduced the pages of the public edition of Watchtower and Awake! and my uncle (an exJW) asked me about it before it was even announced. I told him it'll be a lie made up. Then the announcement came and i defended Watchtower saying "it'll be so much easier for interested ones to read!".

  Yes, i was a mindless Watchtower drone.

  But i think if i were in now even i'd have seen the writing on the wall here.
  
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  THIS Is How JWs Feel About The Cut In Magazines And Content

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i asked the question on quora "how do jehovah's witnesses feel about the announcement that the public edition of the watchtower and awake!

  magazine is being reduced to just 3 issues a year and the number of books, tracts, and online content are being discontinued?".

  https://www.quora.com/how-do-jehovahs-witnesses-feel-about-the-announcement-that-the-public-edition-of-the-watchtower-and-awake-magazine-is-being-reduced-to-just-3-issues-a-year-and-the-number-of-books-tracts-and-online-content-are-being-discontinued.

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  Somehow having less to read is a good thing now? It's almost as if they found having to read all the magazines and books a chore or something. Hey, how about printing no magazines at all. Then they wouldnt have to read anything. Just the bible... like it was supposed to be in the first place.
  
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  THIS Is How JWs Feel About The Cut In Magazines And Content

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i asked the question on quora "how do jehovah's witnesses feel about the announcement that the public edition of the watchtower and awake!

  magazine is being reduced to just 3 issues a year and the number of books, tracts, and online content are being discontinued?".

  https://www.quora.com/how-do-jehovahs-witnesses-feel-about-the-announcement-that-the-public-edition-of-the-watchtower-and-awake-magazine-is-being-reduced-to-just-3-issues-a-year-and-the-number-of-books-tracts-and-online-content-are-being-discontinued.

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  I asked the question on Quora "How do Jehovah's Witnesses feel about the announcement that the public edition of the Watchtower and Awake! magazine is being reduced to just 3 issues a year and the number of books, tracts, and online content are being discontinued?"
  

  https://www.quora.com/How-do-Jehovahs-Witnesses-feel-about-the-announcement-that-the-public-edition-of-the-Watchtower-and-Awake-magazine-is-being-reduced-to-just-3-issues-a-year-and-the-number-of-books-tracts-and-online-content-are-being-discontinued

  The replies actually took me by surprise. I'm assuming these are uber-dubs:

  Sherryl Taylor, studied Law & Accounting (1985)
  

  How do Jehovah’s Witnesses feel about the announcement that the public edition of the Watchtower and Awake is being reduced to just 3 issues a year and the number of books, tracts and online content are being discontinued?

  I feel Just fine, thank you for asking.

  I think however, the arrangement is great and will be more productive for all of us. Less time spent with people who take the magazines out of politeness, but never read them. We will be focused on the people who are interested and willing to progress spiritually.

  I frankly like the efficiency of this new arrangement.

  Interesting that you have a letter from the Governing Body. Because you are not active as a Jehovah’s Witness. You obviously have friends that have access.

  Eugene Rideout, lives in Windsor, ON

  Quite fascinating. We truly are living in momentous times, whether we are willing to recognize it or not.

  “More emphasis will be placed on starting and continuing conversations.”

  The added highlighting of “conversations” will enable JWs to concentrate on getting God’s way of thinking into the hearts and minds of those who express interest.

  We long ago learned the destiny of those who. like the evolutionist Dr. Richard Lewontin, whose most remarkable thought was “We need to avoid letting a Divine foot in the door.”

  Obviously Dr. Lewontin is one of those NOT willing to recognize that we do have a God who loves all humans, and simply hates those who cannot see their way clear to obeying Him.

  Roosevelt Coopling, Active Member of Jehovah's Witnesses

  
  

  Hello!I feel same-to-same.

  As long as we keep the Bible forever, any changes on the magazines will not make a huge difference after all.

  Nuff said….

  Holumuyeewah Solomon Iperepolu, CAD Technician (Computer Aided Drafting Technician)

  
  

  I know everything is been done for our own good

  
  
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  So there are only 12 magazines left!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok, so hot on the heels of the announcement at the agm, we have been told that there are probably only 12 magazines left!.

  yes, there will be only 3 wt each year, and 3 awakes.... and that they will do this for two years, then reprint those issues.... so yes, the "abundance of spiritual food" is limited to 12 more magazines..... surely, this is proof of the end coming so soon!?!

  😉.

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  Sorrry WTWizard, i downvoted by mistake. Upvoted you as well tho.

  3 mags of each a year. Thats pitiful. Inside 10 years it'll all be PDF downloads.
  
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  Update on the $4000 day fine - Padron v Watchtower

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  from reddit:.

  this was an oral argument to dismiss the $4000/day fine.

  both sides presented their arguments and now the judges will write an opinion (30 to 90 days).

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  Watchtower keeps contending that it doesn’t have control of CCJW (Christian Congregation of JWs) or custody of the documents because CCJW is a separate corporation.

  I had to re-read that sentence about 4 times, surely i was wrong... wasn't i? Watchtower has no control over the congregations? This will come as a great surprise to my JW family.
  
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  Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

  by Alfred in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (a little background info before i ask my question...).

  my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

  she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

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  My worse restaurant experience as a JW was only about 2 years ago. One of our friends was getting married in a few days so about 30 of us got a table at a fancy Indian restaurant. We order food, drinks etc. Bill comes and we call decide to pay for the groom-to-be... except one guy doesn't want to chip in for the groom-to-be. Then, seeing as we'd each had the same amount of drinks each albeit different brands, we just decide to split the bill between 29 of us (that's all of us minus the groom). The same guy protests saying he didn't drink alcohol, only lemonade.

  The waiters standing there waiting for someone to pay him. Then comes the best bit, half of them want to pay by card. So there's 29 of us forming a long cue with menus in our hands remembering what we've ordered and paying individually by cash or card. The poor waiter trying to add all this up on his iPhone calculator.

  So 28 of us paid for our own food, plus the cost of the grooms food divided by 28. While the other guy his paying for just his naan bread, chicken bhuna and 2 lemonades.
  

  When the bill's settled someone says "what about the tip?" so muggings here ends up forking out the tip because i cant stand the embarrassment any longer.

  I vowed then and there i'll NEVER go to a restaurant with JWs again.
  
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  October 1, 2017 TO ALL BOE IN NIGERIA Re: Local Needs For the Week of October 16-22

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 1, 2017 to all bodies of elders in nigeria re: local needs for the week of october 16-22.

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  We all regularly set aside money for school fees, food, rent and other necessities. How much more important it is to do so for kingdom interests.

  Seriously? Contributing to the Borg is more important than food and school fee's? In Nigeria?!!
  
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  "Life For Ruth" McGoohan Film About Blood Transfusion 1962

  by cabasilas in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i saw this film many long years ago under a different title.

  in america it was released about 1965 as "walk in the shadows.

  " it's one of patrick mcgoohan's (the prisoner) early films.

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  Oh wow! Just watched this movie now. Remarkably accurate (for the time) and well made. A must watch for all of us.

  If only todays JWs would watch it.
  
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  Watchtower policies Versus the Bible

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought i would run a new kind of topic.

  watchtower policies versus the bible .

  to start off with.

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  A judicial committee takes place behind closed doors. With no representation for the accused. No witnesses allowed. And the three elders act as judge, jury and executioner.

  And yet, in Watchtower April 1st, 2011:

  The Law that Moses delivered to Israel has been called “the greatest and most enlightened system of jurisprudence ever promulgated.” By Jesus’ day, however, legalistically minded rabbis had added to it a mass of extra-Biblical rules, many of which were later recorded in the Talmud. How did Jesus’ trial measure up to these Biblical and extra-Biblical criteria?

  According to the Mosaic Law, trials were to be held in public. (Deuteronomy 16:18; Ruth 4:1) This, on the other hand, was a secret trial. No one attempted to or was allowed to speak in Jesus’ favor. No examination was made of the merits of Jesus’ claim to Messiahship. Jesus had no opportunity to summon witnesses for his defense. There was no orderly voting among the judges as to guilt or innocence.
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  Who has a harder time leaving JW's - Born Ins or those who converted?

  by HeyLittleGirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my freind (who is also out) and i were talking about this the other night.

  i was a born-in, 3rd generation jw and she converted when she was in her late 20's.. when she left, she said that she knew the world wasn't as bad as she was told as a jw, so she knew she would be fine.

  also, she still had lots of "worldly" family who welcomed her back with open arms.. it was harder for me - i had nobody in the "world", no family or freinds.

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  As a 2nd generation born-in with every-single-member-of-my-family a JW (yes, parents, siblings, cousins, nieces, nephews etc) i'd say its definitely harder for born ins.

  Remember, us born ins have tainted memories. Those times as a kid were full of JW things that were just normal to us. Waking up on 25th Dec as a normal day, doing normal things. Going to JW parties and an elder giving a prayer even if it was at a hired venue. Looking at outsiders with distrust and a little fear. And there are happy memories we have from our childhood that, unfortunately, Watchtower invaded upon such as weddings and anniversarys, holidays with family (mine would still visit the KH on holiday!). School plays which we were excluded from because it might have been the nativity, or had a hymn in there somewhere, our non JW friends we only saw at school (never outside of school).

  I never knew normal until i left. I envied the real world for so long and now im actually in it i feel so lucky but sad for those JWs who arnt living the real life outside the Watchtower cage.