Posts by pale.emperor

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Unwritten Theory

by moreconfusedthanever in

have any of you heard some theories from jws that are not based on scripture?

i have, in the past few days, heard a couple that have me shaking my head.. first one is that since satan was around during the creation period and probably watched on as things were being made, it is possible that he is responsible for the creation of some of the more hideous and nasty creatures that live among us.

surely god wouldn't make horrible things.. second one is that satan already had a bad attitude before the creation of adam and eve and was collecting followers among the other angels early on and stirring trouble.

pale.emperor

How about the theory that Satan and his demons listen in to your conversations and remember things that you're afraid of or doubting about.

Or the one that demons like to live in 2nd hand vases and your dads old shirt?

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Some more background information on Geoffrey Jackson

by Listener in

born in 1955 jacko was baptized at 13 years of age in 1968.his life story, printed in the august 2015 watchtower doesn't state the year in which he married, it's fairly general when talking about it.

hmmm, i wonder why?i've come across a recording of an interview with jacko at a hall dedication in another part of the us in 2009 which provides some further information.he married his first wife, jenny, in 1974 at the grand old age of 19. no wonder they didn't want to print it in the watchtower.unfortunately his first wife, jenny, was diagnosed with cancer in 1999.in 2003 jacko was sent a letter from the gb stating he was being transferred to hq and his wife would be given appropriate work.

he initially didn't know why they were being called to hq as he felt they were being very productive in their fijian paradise, he states that they brought 75 people into the truth.

pale.emperor

Loraini has got her feet under the table there. Well done Mrs Jackson for marrying up. She can be assured a first class ticket to the new system.

Which poses another question... if your husband goes to heaven, can you remarry in the new world?

I wonder if Jeffrey Jackson was just a normal MS in the KH, would she have looked at him twice? Who knows.

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Outside JW World They Barely Exist

by Farmer Jim1 in

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is anyone else staggered by the fact that outside of the organization most of the general public seem to know very little or nothing about jw’s?

when i was in i was led to believe that 99% of the worlds population had been giving sufficient warning, knew what it was all about and were stubbornly sticking to their immoral ways.

the reality seems to be that the entire jw universe is barely noticeable to the masses.

pale.emperor

I get people here in the UK asking me who/what Jehovah is. Nobody I've ever spoken to when i was in and after leaving knew anything about them. The no birthdays was the one most would know. Many didn't even know we didn't celebrate Christmas.

When i first left it made me see what a massive waste of time field service was (and still is).

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JWs don’t break up families

by Jules Saturn in

i get very angry when i hear this claim being made by jws and get even angrier when i read the article they have on their faq section on jw.org which i’ll leave a link here:.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/families/.

i know that the majority of this article is written about having a spouse that isn’t a believer and how the bible encourages them to stay together but that’s one of the things that can cause division in a family, for an example if a son or daughter marry a nonbeliever or a worldly person the parents aren’t going to attend the wedding.. once i was told by an elder that if i continued with my behavior of wanting to seek worldly friends and worldly companionship that i would have to leave my home because the holy spirit would leave my house and that would have a huge impact on my family.

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Text message i got from my sister a while ago was:

We as a family are suffering because of you leaving Jehovah. I just hope you see that the world has nothing to offer you and when you return it'll be one of the happiest moments of my life.

Notice how it's my fault that the family is suffering. It wouldn't be the Watchtowers fault no-no-no.

In reality, the only thing stopping her carrying on having a normal brother/sister relationship with me is her or her beliefs.

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can you still record the talks at assemblies?

by greenhornet in

years ago my parents would record these talks and play them back all the time.

when they both died, we cleaned out the house and found 50 plus cassette tapes of recorded talks and they were labeled the year and the speaker at the time.

that was in the year 2000. we just gave them to there jw friends because i did not want to keep them for recording of music.

pale.emperor

I remember they used to announce for the convention platform that any recordings should not be shares. So even if they've tried to stop it i think they know people still do it.

When i was in, i was constantly harassed by elders and their cronies to transfer cassette tapes to mp3 and/or put them on a CD for them (i was the tech savvy one in the KH) but they'd also warn ME not to share them around (hypocrisy?). As a result i ended up with quite a collection of talks on my computer from UK and USA. It's interesting that the elders would ignore the convention announcement about not sharing them.

I remember listening to a few talks from Bro. Mack (an American) he was a very good speaker.

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Big xJW scandal

by Charlotte in

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Me no understanding.

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Born Again church and healing Peter's feet

by punkofnice in

when i left the jobos i went to different churches, depending on where i lived at the time.

i still believed in god and jesus at the time.. i was beginning to feel that there was actually no god but continued with the delusion as it comforted me.. the church i went to had some that claimed they could speak in tongues.

i suspected this was just an attention seeking device and that they were just spouting gibberish to appear special.. i went to a church morning breakfast.

pale.emperor

PS. Paley, what is your avatar, I can't quite make it out. Looks like a little scorpion on a book?

It's Lucifer being cast out of heaven from Milton's Paraside Lost.

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It's been a GREAT week for me!

by dubstepped in

so as some of you know i have a podcast called this jw life.

i put my story out there in 9 parts, and i've had lots of great experiences so far and met lots of nice people and i've made new internet friends, even some in person.

this last seven days though has been soooooo cool!.

pale.emperor

Great news dubstepped!

I remember i started listening to This JW Life when i was in Amsterdam in my hotel room at night. I ended up staying awake until about 2am listening to more and more.

You're doing good and meaningful work that's helping others escape. Proud of ya!

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Born Again church and healing Peter's feet

by punkofnice in

when i left the jobos i went to different churches, depending on where i lived at the time.

i still believed in god and jesus at the time.. i was beginning to feel that there was actually no god but continued with the delusion as it comforted me.. the church i went to had some that claimed they could speak in tongues.

i suspected this was just an attention seeking device and that they were just spouting gibberish to appear special.. i went to a church morning breakfast.

pale.emperor

Fortunately it was just his feet that were ailing. It's very common for people to forgo medical treatment for serious illnesses like epilepsy, diabetes and even tumors thinking Jesus will cure them.

This went on until one of the women said, 'I can't understand why it's not working.'

Oh dear.

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Pale.Emperor Meets A Born Again Christian

by pale.emperor in

of all the religions out there one religion that's always filled me with exasperation was the born again christian belief system.

to make matters worse, the street preachers i see and hear here in liverpool always tend to be crack pot, loud mouths, attention seeking and just plain annoying.. this idea that "im going to heaven, you're going to hell" is enough to make me not want to worship their god even if he did exist.

but today i met two.

pale.emperor

The ones who shout about Jesus and hell seem to just love being confronted. They shout back at them via a microphone and i do wonder if they're being that way on purpose.

I also hate that they tend to play bible readings by Alexander Scourby or hymns through a 1990s ghetto blaster at high volume. If you want to convince me of anything you need to calmly and rationally talk through your reasoning point by point. Noise and showy displays are just pointless.