Posts by pale.emperor

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The Constant Mindchatter After You Leave

by pale.emperor in

i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.

it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.

i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".

pale.emperor

Did they live long happy egg laying lives before they entered the stew pot?

LMAO!!

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Has Being a JW affected your SEX Life?

by minimus in

jw
friends

not being a witness has been a plus for my sex life.

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what about you!

pale.emperor

A few months ago i had a 2 month casual arrangement with an active JW pioneer sister
AWESOME! She yell "oh god, oh god oh god" a lot:)
I hope her ambitions were not limited to missionary

She was a deviant. Shocked even me. Sexual repression must bring out the worst (or best) in people, depending on how you look at it.

Sex was mind numbingly boring with my ex, same thing every time, practically no foreplay and same position, only ever in a bed and rolled over and went straight to sleep afterwards. I'm pleased I had lots of fun before I became a witness. I haven't been in another relationship.

Now's the time to fill your boots!

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a question after my first JW meeting

by bleak in

i attended my first jw meeting recently.

first, i would like to say what i agree with about the jehovah's witnesses beliefs and practices.. 1. they don't consider israeli's as "god's chosen people" and they don't worship israel as some holy land filled with righteous jews (although there are some there) as most so-called "christians" (christian zionists) erroneously believe they are instead of the "hypocrites" and "vipers" that it is actually filled with.. 2. they don't celebrate "holidays" like easter and christmas which are, in fact, remnants of earlier pagan practices.. 3. they don't put nation before god and christ.

they don't believe in war or going to war because of some crazy government/cia secret agenda.

pale.emperor

Two words for you...

Check JWFacts.com

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Has Being a JW affected your SEX Life?

by minimus in

jw
friends

not being a witness has been a plus for my sex life.

.

what about you!

pale.emperor

When i was a JW my then-wife suffered from depression, anxiety and OCD (yay!). So after a year of marriage sex gradually declined from regular, once a week, once a month and eventually we went the last 3 years not having sex at all.

Now?

Upon leaving i made up for lost time and lived a somewhat libertine lifestyle i don't regret a single one. I've been with all races and a variety of ages. A few months ago i had a 2 month casual arrangement with an active JW pioneer sister. She's still a JW and in good standing, she just didnt tell anyone.

My current girlfriend of 4 months is 22, i'm 33 so im very regular in that dept.

So, you lurkers, if you leave you get to have great sex. Come on out, it's great out here. Pillows are optional.

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Friendship

by Freedom rocks in

jw
friends

how long did you all wait before telling new friends or someone you are or were dating that you used to be a witness?

how did they react?

if you did tell them do they make jokes at you every so often about it 😊 is it best not to tell people?

pale.emperor

I tell everybody. People are actually very interested when they hear i was in a cult. I depends how you do it. Im very outgoing and welcoming to people and let them see that side of me. If/when the conversation switches to family or when we were kids i mention that my family dont have anything to do with me or that i never did brithdays or xmas. Which ALWAYS means they'll ask why and so i tell them i was in a cult.

It's a great un-witnessing opportunity when you get to tell them how you've been disowned simply for leaving.

People make jokes sometimes but then im the first one to joke about it. It all depends how you go about it. If you own it there's no shame at all.

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Marked

by Normalfulla in

ok , my wife and i have faded for a year and a half , i won't bore u with all the details but my wife just got confirmation that her sister got a visit some time ago saying we are marked and my sister also got the same visit in which we were described as dangerous, now for my wife , she has not spoken 1 bad word to anyone about the org apart from me (she woke me up ) the elders came around while i wasn't home and bailed her up but she said she wasn't comfortable talking to them without me there ,so the result ?......

let's do a round of all their friends and say shit about them because we can't df them but let's get them treated the same as if they were .... yeah yeah that's a good idea .... stupid mofos!

out to just wreck the reputation of any defectors from the org .

pale.emperor

The org has really stepped on the cultiness these past few years. Sorry to hear it's gone that way for you.

you might be able to seek legal action for defamation of character. Imagine if you did that to your next door neighbour. It's not right and it's not legal.

Or perhaps make a fake solicitors letter and give them a scare.

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The Constant Mindchatter After You Leave

by pale.emperor in

i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.

it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.

i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".

pale.emperor

Dubstepped - I'd love to :)

May I ask, where do you find peace of mind and comfort? Have you replaced the JWs with something healthy, not necessarily spiritual, but whatever void the JWs filled for you, do you get those needs fulfilled somewhere else (if you were a JW for a reason, not a born-in)?

When i first left i just enjoyed free Thursday evenings and free weekends. I lived a libertine lifestyle for a while and looked into things that were previously verboten. It allowed me to see who i really am and what my personal morals are. It wasn't easy and wasn't always pleasant confronting deep held beliefs and trying to understand if this really was my own belief or was it instilled in me? I studied other religions and philosophies objectively and took on board things i thought were useful and discarded them if they proved harmful or useless. In my search for rationality and pure truth of the world around me, it meant that my views on the origin of humans, abortion, the death penalty, treatment of homosexuals etc all got scrutinized to a high degree.

I find comfort in the fact that it's a miracle i was even born, so i just try to enjoy everything and try everything i want to try. I have a lot of interests and hobbies (too many to pursue entirely) such as photography, languages, music and writing.

My philosophy of life and the way i live is influenced by some Buddhist, some La Vayan Satanist, and general "live and let" live attitude. I now have my own personal morals and i dont force them or preach them on others.

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The Constant Mindchatter After You Leave

by pale.emperor in

i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.

it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.

i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".

pale.emperor

Thanks guys.

What are you studying btw?

Im studying Psychology with counseling - the goal is to be a therapist for ex-cult members and for anything i write (when i eventually get round to writing a book) has some real credence when JWs come to criticize it.

I think you're right. I do need to take a break from here. But i do enjoy coming here and sharing.

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The Constant Mindchatter After You Leave

by pale.emperor in

i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.

it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.

i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".

pale.emperor

Hi everyone. I've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to Watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.

One thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of JWism and Watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines. It's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the JW teachings false and then getting annoyed because no JW will listen even if you tried to tell them. I call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter". I just cant turn it off.

I read in psychology that the reason we sometimes get a song stuck in our head is because we didnt hear the end of the song last time we heard it. That our brain doesnt like an unfinished thought so it plays the song over and over to get you to finish it. And that to get the song out of your head you should listen to the song all the way though or try to think of the end of the song. In a similar way i think that's whats happening here. I feel like i have unfinished business with the Watchtower society. That i need to take action to finally put an end to my life with them. But how? I enjoy watching Lloyd Evans rebuttals and i come on here everyday. But that's because nobody understands except us. My girlfriend finds the pillowgate trailer hilarious and when i explain the teachings of JWs she thinks they weird but that's as far as it goes. Whenever i talk about my past or my childhood i have to explain backstory first like the JW terminology or what Bethel is etc. But when i talk to you guys i dont have to do that. Yesterday she laughed and commented how i mention my old religion literally everyday in conversation. But that's because 31 years of my life WAS JWism. It coloured and influenced literally every thought, action and decision since i was born.

I wish i could just move on from this JW crap and live a life without thinking about it. But just when i think im making real progress there's a fucking JW cart on the street corner or outside the store im going in and the title of the magazine they're holding out makes me want to approach and debunk them.

Sorry for the rant. Today the mindchatter is stronger than usual.

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Lurkers

by Freedom rocks in

do you think elders and gb members monitor this site to catch people?.

pale.emperor

I was outed by my posts on here. But it wasnt someone reading it and figuring out it was me, it was my sister-in-law using my computer while she was babysitting my daughter and going out of her way to check my internet history.

To be honest, im amazed she never found the huge collection of online porn.