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  Dutch

  by Gorbatchov in

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  why i am proud to be dutch: today the state secretary of foreign affairs had to resign because of lying about russia.. we don't accept openly liars.. g..

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  Love the dutch.

  My fave place in the world is Amsterdam. It's my second home.
  
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  Please Switch Off Your Critical Thinking

  by pale.emperor in

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  i have an uneasy feeling inside that something is coming this year or the next.

  perhaps a new big announcement that turns jwdom on it's head.. we've seen the statement in the watchtower november 15th, 2013 which said:.

  watchtower november 15th, 2013 - page 20, paragraph 17.. .

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  I dont think we're to expect a Jonestown type suicide (although the blood doctrine is pretty close to suicide). And considering that we read the elders letters and convention outlines before they do we'd have ample time to act if it was going that way.

  Lets see... what things "wouldn't appear sound from a human standpoint" to me?

  • Handing over all my cash?
  • Baptizing babies?
  • Re-baptism into updated understanding of "The Truth™"
    
  • Selling all my belongings and moving into a commune?
  • Forced divorces and re-marriage to assigned mates?

  Right now, none of the above would surprise me at all. Hell, i could pull scriptures out my ass to make anything sound legit.
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  Please Switch Off Your Critical Thinking

  by pale.emperor in

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  i have an uneasy feeling inside that something is coming this year or the next.

  perhaps a new big announcement that turns jwdom on it's head.. we've seen the statement in the watchtower november 15th, 2013 which said:.

  watchtower november 15th, 2013 - page 20, paragraph 17.. .

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  I think they'll up the shunning non-JW family members. They already told the members at the last convention to shun faders. When i asked a JW about this they claimed that they've always done that (which they havent). It's like their brains are wiped and reprogrammed and they forget they ever taught anything else.
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  Please Switch Off Your Critical Thinking

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have an uneasy feeling inside that something is coming this year or the next.

  perhaps a new big announcement that turns jwdom on it's head.. we've seen the statement in the watchtower november 15th, 2013 which said:.

  watchtower november 15th, 2013 - page 20, paragraph 17.. .

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  I have an uneasy feeling inside that something is coming this year or the next. Perhaps a new big announcement that turns JWdom on it's head.

  We've seen the statement in the Watchtower November 15th, 2013 which said:

  

  Watchtower November 15th, 2013 - page 20, paragraph 17.
  

  I'm sure i dont need to go into great lengths talking about how chilling and worrying that paragraph is. For a religion who's belief system is based on paranoia about armageddon, persecution and the belief that we and our children dont belong to ourselves the possibilities for a dangerous outcome is very high.
  

  The term "adjust their thinking" is also quite concerning. Using synonyms for each word "adjust" their "thinking" becomes "change" their "mind".

  Then we've seen in the leaked 2018 convention videos the subtle and not so subtle hints to "just go along with what the GB say".

  One of the videos shows three sisters discussing the arrangement to move them into different congregations away from their family. The "good" sister acknowledges that the decision the elders came to doesn't make any sense but remarks:
  

  10:22: Whether is makes sense or not, im going to support that arrangement.
  

  

  WAIT... stop a second. You admit it doesn't make any sense, but you're going to support it any way?

  People "support" something they understand and believe in. I myself "support" the Labour party in Britain. I looked into their policys, their agenda, their aims and their history and i decided that they're a political party that i would back.

  Imagine if you will, if i lived in 1930 in Germany. A political party called The National Socialist German Workers Party (NAZI) comes along and, although i dont understand their aims, i decide to support them anyway. What are the consequences of my "just going along with it?". By 1945 looking back on what's happened and the result of many people "just going along with it" could i honestly have cause to complain?

  The "bad" sister in the video was absolutely right to ask why the arrangement has been put in place. She had every right to discuss, critique and offer counter ideas - that's in the normal world. And the video shown that she was "bad" for thinking for herself and trusting her own mind.
  

  They're really pushing this now. Maybe the GB know their teachings are based on wrong dates? Maybe the GB are going to drop the 1914 teaching but still expect the rank and file to "just go along with it"? I dont know.
  
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  2018 Convention videos leaked by brave insiders

  by Room 215 in

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  anopther coup for cedars: http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/leaked-2018-convention-videos-celebrate-anti-lgbtq-bigotry-unquestioning-obedience-doomsday-fear-mongering

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  10:22: Whether is makes sense or not, im going to support that arrangement.

  
  

  /\THIS/\ is exactly what a cult is!!
  
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  2018 Convention videos leaked by brave insiders

  by Room 215 in

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  anopther coup for cedars: http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/leaked-2018-convention-videos-celebrate-anti-lgbtq-bigotry-unquestioning-obedience-doomsday-fear-mongering

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  It's only a matter of time before we have their internal emails. Now THAT would be something.
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  2018 Convention videos leaked by brave insiders

  by Room 215 in

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  anopther coup for cedars: http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/leaked-2018-convention-videos-celebrate-anti-lgbtq-bigotry-unquestioning-obedience-doomsday-fear-mongering

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  Since when have homosexuals berated anyone for not wearing a wristband?

  Since when did cashiers outright ask you if you wanted to donate to a charity? (There's usually a bucket or something next to the till for that sort of thing).

  It's always been the Watchtower spouting hate towards the homosexuals, and here they are playing the victim.

  "I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses. And we believe the bible says that sex is for a man and woman who are married".

  Vom. She's missing out on so much.
  
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  Is it ethical to have children?

  by joey jojo in

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  this was a news article recently in an australian newspaper that caught my eye.. the premise was that to have a child is to inflict an extra human being onto the world and also, to inflict the world (with all its problems) onto the child.. there is a lot to say about this but from jw point of view, i have always believed it to be incredibly hypocritical that jw's have children in 'this system'.

  all my life at the meeting i heard how little time we have left, how sick the world is, how i was probably going to be persecuted and end up in a jail cell for being a jw.

  why would anyone want to become parents in this situation, particularly if they are confident there is only 'a short time left'?.

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  Since waking up, I've always wondered how far does this thinking go?

  I mean, if i genuinely believed that armageddon is "just around the corner", that we're "in the last seconds, of the last minute of the last days" then i wouldn't even bother taking medicine, buying new clothes or buying a house - let alone have kids.

  Just goes to show that deep down, really, we probably wasn't that convinced it was just around the corner.
  
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  Personal opinions spouted from the platform?

  by purrpurr in

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  have you ever heard some brothers own ideas and opinions spouted from the platform?

  perhaps off brand or crazy ones?

  some that i've heard is:.

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  There was a CO in the early 2000s that even the elders called crazy. He spouted from the platform that pubs are not for Gods people. The uber-dub JW women agreed with him and used it as an excuse to approach younger ones an JW men they knew who went to pubs.

  Doesnt it just show how many of them dont think for themselves and will allow some nobody on the platform to override their own thinking?
  
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  Personal opinions spouted from the platform?

  by purrpurr in

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  have you ever heard some brothers own ideas and opinions spouted from the platform?

  perhaps off brand or crazy ones?

  some that i've heard is:.

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  I remember in the 1990s a speaker in a circuit assembley telling us that the band Oasis are not for Christians.

  Also another elder claimed Lord Of The Rings was Satanic.

  That was all my parents needed to hear. It may as well have been said by God himself