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  Are the younger generation taking on roles in the Cong?

  by purrpurr in

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  i notice that several of the congs i've been to seem to have a majority of the male roles performed by older men.

  very few young men are wanting to be ms or elders etc.

  it also seems like very few young people are being pioneers either.. would you agree with this?

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  In my last cong it was a recurring "local needs" talk. One particular elder was always banging on about the younger brothers not reaching out. It used to piss me off when I was a believer because i really was doing all I could and other young brothers said the same. The forget that I was working full time, raising a newborn baby and was the stand-in talk guy. The only thing was my ministry. It would do an hour on Saturday and that was it. What more did they want? Sacrifice my time with my wife and baby to count pennies from the contribution box or kiss elders asses?

  Fuck that shit.

  I never wanted to be a MS or elder, more work, more bullshit.
  
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  I am a proud Jehovah's Witness Defender

  by Matthew Jefferson in

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  2. experiences

  my name is matthew j and i have just ended my study with the jehovah's witnesses.

  no, i did not stop studying because i believe the jehovah's witnesses are a 'cult', i left due to the minor beliefs that i hold that remain separate from the organization.

  i called my elder who is still an amazing man and great counselor, affirming that i do not wish to continue my studying.

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  I have had 9 months of the a great honor and privlage to be associated with such amazing people and to aid such a phenomenal organization. I am, and have stated to my friends of my Kingdom Hall that if anyone were to harm the organization, I will do anything to my ability to come to their [the organization's] defense. I have said, ''If their is a 'watchtower', I will be a gaurd in it to aid in defence of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

  And yet you wont join.
  
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  Anyone know of elders talking private KH matters to wifes?

  by Tobyjones262 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i knew of several elders who would tell their wife's everything that happened in a committee meeting.

  he is still and elder and very old but i doubt he has changed.

  we used to call him.

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  My ex-father in law is an elder. He'd discuss judicial committee details at the family dinner table "for fun". We used to while away hours after dinner drinking wine and talking about brother-masturbator and what his favorite porn is, sister so-and-so who's been on a vacation with a non-JW man but assures us that nothing happened or brother and sister X who video taped themselves having sex and confessed to the elders.

  It happens - 100%.

  Not gonna lie, it was intriguing learning about the brothers and sisters in the hall. You'd never look at "poster girl pioneer" the same way after you've learned she has a dildo collection.
  
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  Tony Morris Talk: "This Is It!"

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  can anyone direct me to the tony "tightpants" morris talk he gave in the agm where he revealed the new king of the north?

  i'm told via the jw grapevine it was entitled "this is it!"..

  is there a video?

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  Can anyone direct me to the Tony "Tightpants" Morris talk he gave in the AGM where he revealed the new King Of The North? I'm told via the JW grapevine it was entitled "This is it!".

  Is there a video?

  
  
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  Did you actually read the bible end to end?

  by Ultimate Axiom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my ten years as a witness i never read the whole bible end to end, what with four magazines a month, the book study, meetings and talk preparations, there just wasn’t the time.

  i knew all the important references to ‘prove’ the various jw doctrines, and the cherry picked chapters that help foster the idea that it’s a good book, but that’s not reading it.

  well after nearly forty years out, i decided i would do it.

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  I did at least twice. Leviticus was one hard slog I can tell you.

  I also read the Book Of Mormon and the Koran. They were easier to read as there's less there. But the Book Of Mormon was more fairy tales.
  
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  Crisis of Conscience is being delivered to my door today. I can't wait

  by Fognomore in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since i have no one else to talk to about what i am going through, i just thought i would let this group know that i have .

  crisis of conscience coming to my front door today.

  i already know what i will say if my wife says something.

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  It was a life changing read for me and many of us on here, you’re in for a gripping read and quite an education. I’m planning to read it again and take notes.
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  Demon Posessed Rock Bands I couldn’t listen to

  by hoser in

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  kiss.

  steve miller band (abracadabra).

  eagles.

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  Led Zeppelin (due to the alleged backmasking of Stairway To Heaven)

  Guns N Roses

  The Eagles (the lyrics to Hotel California relegated them to “demonic”)

  Marilyn Manson (altho I was secretly a fan for years even while a believer)

  Iron Maiden

  Black Sabbath
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  WT Study October 2018....spinning ''layoffs'' into ''reassigning'' ex-Bethelites ''to the field''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt study october 2018. maintain inner peace despite changing circumstances.

  lloyd and alexandra learn that they have been reassigned to the field, they at first felt sad.

  after all, they had been serving at bethel for over 25 years.

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  It must be scary though, especially in a country that has little or no welfare. Being kicked to the curb in your middle ages or later and expected to find a home, job etc and never an option to retire because you've no savings.

  I get it, the ones who joined Bethel probably thought they'd be there when the big A comes.

  Good thing it's "just around the corner" otherwise I'd be terrified of wasting my youth, energy and time in Bethel when I could be living my life and preparing for the future.

  But what do I know, I'm "mentally diseased".
  
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  If My Dad Were To See The Watchtower Org Now

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as we all know, this org has metamorphosized from one ugly creature to another continuously since it's inception.

  but more so it seems in the last 30 years.. i got to thinking what my dad would think if he were to be brought to life for 5 mins to see the way things are now.

  how would he even react?.

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  pale.emperor

  I was still in (and an 80% believer) when they stopped the ministry school. No more talks from the platform for pale.emperor. I genuinely enjoyed giving talks and studying a subject. When that ended it didn't make sense. The elders were acting all excited and upbeat about it as if it was a wonderful change but you could tell they were putting it on. Even they didn't understand the change.

  As for those that've been in for decades, I can totally understand why they'd prefer the safety of not confronting their doubts. Where else would they go? It is worth losing friends you've had 30+ years? Is it worth losing your children, brothers, sisters or parents? The propaganda in the literature and videos always show ex-members as bitter, selfish and dangerous.
  
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  Flat Earth and Jw. Not possible?

  by Earthmeasured in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry for my poor english, i hope to make not too many mistakes.

  im a jw and in the last three years i have studied a lot the topic of the earth being flat.

  i have a good scientific background so im not stupid or crazy.

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  pale.emperor

  I have a good scientific background so im not stupid or crazy.

  Are you sure?