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  Any Others of the "Anointed"?

  by Hernandez in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was baptized in 1985, was a regular pioneer, ministerial servant, and on the way to becoming an elder when i left the witnesses in 1999. i also was one of those who claimed and (at the time ) believed i was one of the anointed.. i am wondering if there are any others here who also claimed they were of the anointed?

  how did you come to that conclusion?

  how do you feel about your claim now that you are out?.

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  Thanks for sharing. I always wondered how/why some felt they were anointed.
  
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  The Cult Guide To Raising Children

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something you're not likely to see in the "secret to family happiness" book.

  the borg's guide to raising children:.

  put the borgs needs, desires and agenda before the children every time, all the time.

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  Oh Xanthippe, you've just reminded me that i've NEVER seen or read any Harry Potter. There's movie night sorted. Thank you.
  
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  Apologizing to my non-JW friends

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i bumped into an old friend from my last workplace.

  he's a gay man and we were good friends along with a woman from the same office.

  although i was a jw at the time, i would go for the occasional after work drinks with them, blackpool funfair every year and the occasional cinema or theater.

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  Yesterday i bumped into an old friend from my last workplace. He's a gay man and we were good friends along with a woman from the same office. Although i was a JW at the time, i would go for the occasional after work drinks with them, Blackpool funfair every year and the occasional cinema or theater. Unfortunately, despite this, i didn't see them as much as "normal" friends would. I couldn't let my fellow JW's know about them.

  So i seen him yesterday and ended up going for a drink with him. We had a great evening laughing and catching up. He heard i'd left the JW's and asked me over for xmas with his partner.

  I apologized to him for some of the crazy things i said and spouted to him while i was "in". I was never mean to him (or any of my non JW friends for that matter) but i did parrot what WT mags said about homosexuality being a sin, and not born that way etc.

  His reply: "Well i just thought you were a bit mad;) Some of my friends are. But i wouldnt change you for the world. Hey-ho we move on."

  Can imagine any witness reacting like that.
  
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  The Cult Guide To Raising Children

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something you're not likely to see in the "secret to family happiness" book.

  the borg's guide to raising children:.

  put the borgs needs, desires and agenda before the children every time, all the time.

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  Something you're not likely to see in the "Secret To Family Happiness" book. The bOrg's guide to raising children:

  • put the bOrgs needs, desires and agenda before the children every time, all the time
  • deprive them of the opportunity of higher education or to better themselves in any way
    
  • when the children are old enough, pressure them to get baptized and commit to being under the bOrgs control
    
  • advise them to pioneer instead of working when the finish high school so they have no real work experience and no money.
  • Deprive them of birthdays without a really understanding why or without really agreeing with the official reason in the WT mags.
    
  • Make sure they dont read real medical journals regarding blood transfusions or science thesis's about evolution.
    
  • as your children get older, tell them “I love you, but I love Jehovah more”
  • Make sure they only associate and speak to other JW indoctrinated children so they are socially awkward and come across as a bit weird and self righteous.
  • Fill their head with baseless claims about homosexuals, atheists and people who leave the bOrg.
    
  • If/when they see through the mind control and the blatant incompetence of the cult leaders, banish them from your home at 15 and tell them that “delinquent children need to be cut off as they are a bad influence”.

  Repeat with any other children you may have.

  I can relate to all but the last of these. I had to re-learn everything i was taught.
  
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  Funny Watchtower pictures

  by processor in

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  Fantastic. Laughed my head off. I've never seen the one of the fallen angels going back up to heaven though. Where's that one from?
  
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  ARC - where to start?

  by thereishope in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm hoping for help in finding a starting point, somewhere to direct my husband.

  i brought up a little bit about the arc spoken of so widely here on the forum.

  i just gave him a bit of a hint a few days ago, and he wanted to hear nothing of it - the old you can't believe everything you read.

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  Those videos were the final nail in the coffin for me. I had this idea of GB members being bible experts, bold, having scriptural answers for any accusation thrown at them. What i saw was a man squirming in his seat, using half truths and blatant lies. If any JW's saw this they'd be stumbled.

  Unfortunately most of them wont. Even watching their beloved GB member in a court case would amount to "apostasy" because it portrays them in a bad light.

  Who's bringing reproach on Jehovah now Mr Jackson?
  
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  If you are still in the organization, do you enjoy the meetings ?

  by Iamallcool in

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  rate it from 1 to 10. thanks!

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  Remember as a kid the elation you'd feel if the visiting speaker on a Sunday failed to turn up and you'd (sometimes) get to go home early? I imagine that what Christmas must feel like :)
  
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  The bOrg Cult Tactics

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm wondering if the borg actually studied mind control and coercion tactics deliberately or wether they just evolved over time through trial and error.

  from reading steve hassans books, studying hypnosis and methods psychopaths use it all seems very complex.

  like it would never occur to me to do a, b and c in the right order at the right time in order to get control of someone or control their lives.. for example, repetition of words (the word "loyalty" was a big one in the last convention), using loaded language, encouraging people not to trust their own thoughts, restricting their information, demonising those who leave etc.

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  They will even say that the members minds are washed clean of the satanic filth of the world.

  My brother in law said this to me in the middle of a rant because i was leaving the bOrg "you think we're brainwashed? Well good! I want my brain washed from all the evil in the world. The Organisation has washed my brain of badness."

  Cant really reason with that sort of stupidity can you?
  
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  The bOrg Cult Tactics

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm wondering if the borg actually studied mind control and coercion tactics deliberately or wether they just evolved over time through trial and error.

  from reading steve hassans books, studying hypnosis and methods psychopaths use it all seems very complex.

  like it would never occur to me to do a, b and c in the right order at the right time in order to get control of someone or control their lives.. for example, repetition of words (the word "loyalty" was a big one in the last convention), using loaded language, encouraging people not to trust their own thoughts, restricting their information, demonising those who leave etc.

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  Watch the master at work:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2E7OBWPG5I
  
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  JF Rutherford Records

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've uploaded the first of many of jf rutherfords door to door records onto youtube.

  i'll be uploading more over the next few days.. i thought it appropriate to make the first one "religion is a snare and a racket".. you can listen to it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgb25yii74w&feature=youtu.be.

  ironically, jw's today freely refer to their beliefs as "religion".

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  I've uploaded the first of many of JF Rutherfords door to door records onto YouTube. I'll be uploading more over the next few days.

  I thought it appropriate to make the first one "Religion Is A Snare And A Racket".
  

  You can listen to it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGB25yii74w&feature=youtu.be

  Ironically, JW's today freely refer to their beliefs as "religion". Whats up with that?