Posts by pale.emperor

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Letter about changes in book 100 year kingdom

by Rather Be the Hammer in

yesterday a letter was read in our congregation.

it said that there have been doctrinal changes in many chapters of the book 'god's kingdom rules' so everyone but especially the conductor must be sure to use the latest update of the book.. this book is only ...how old?

two years?

pale.emperor

You can see why they're really encouraging digital editions of their publications. Changes can be made immediately before anyone even knows.

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Convention Weirdness

by BlackWolf in

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well i just got back from 3 days in hell, and geez was this convention strange or what?

im sure someone's probably made a topic about this already but i can't believe that there weren't any new releases besides the movies.

has that ever happened before?

pale.emperor

There is the assumption that all jw live in houses with basements.

I live on the 4th floor in an apartment block, im screwed. Where am i gonna hide?

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I need quotes from watctower demonizing the internet, and gadgets e.g smart phones, tablets etc

by joe134cd in

i need wt quotes where wt goes fully out and: .

demonizes the internet, .

witnesses preaching on the internet.

pale.emperor

I remember my mum flat out refused to have the internet. I used to go to libraries to use it and learn and study the many things i was interested in. She used to ask me "what are you doing on there? All that information...". She was convinced that the internet is just so people can grow magic mushrooms, look at pornography and spread apostasy.

Years later she relented because a pioneer couple who she just worshiped got the internet. So we got the internet.

I promptly looked up some porn and apostasy... never did grow any mushrooms.

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What is the biggest hypocrisy you have seen as a witness?

by HereIgo in

i have far too many to name, but ill start with obscene music, gambling and cussing like a sailor.

all the while preaching to "worldly people" about their impending death at armageddon.

thoughts?.

pale.emperor

Since leaving i met up with a girl that went to the same congregation as me, she was a pioneer in her late teens who just left quite suddenly. She stopped going to meetings and just disappeared. No one inquired after her.

When i asked her what made her leave she said "actually, when i stopped going to the meetings i still believed it was the truth. The reason i stopped going was Brother X (a married min servant in his 40s) kept sending me text messages telling me he loved me. He'd wait outside my workplace and try to talk to me after work each day and take me out. Once day he broke down in tears and told me he'd leave his wife for me and kissed me. I was so freaked out i ran and stayed home for a week. He kept texting and calling begging me not to tell his wife. And i didn't. I only told my mum. Mum said it'd be best if we didn't go anymore."

Since leaving this brother has been appointed as an elder. The girl went to Uni and is now a lawyer.

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Elder asking for help

by untruth in

this is my first time posting on here so i’m not sure where to start.

i’m trying to keep it as short as possible since i could expand much more.

i’ve been in the process of waking up in the last year and a half.

pale.emperor

I would take an interest in JW history. Many JW's collect the old books and photo's of Bro Russel or Rutherford. Find the one about Beth Sarim with Rutherford sitting outside his mansion waiting for the prophets of old to be resurrected to live with him in California. Give a little laugh and say "i wonder why Jehovah told him that".

Then leave it.

Little seeds.

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Elaine from the bunker video

by jookbeard in

does anyone know anything about the luscious elaine?

is she a professional actress or just a member of the r&f recruited to be a member of the cast of this video?

the pout,olive skin stunning looks make my heart miss a beat every time i see this beauty.

pale.emperor

People told me to have tissues ready before watching this video... and when i saw her i knew they were right!

Id be made up locked in a bunker with her.

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Young Ones Leaving

by pale.emperor in

in the congregation that i grew up in there were about 30 children under 16 (myself included).

as time went on they one by one slipped away from the meetings and most never got baptized.

of those 30 children only myself and two other girls stayed and got baptized.

pale.emperor

@pale.emperor
May I ask, what area this is happening in?
I go to a Spanish Speaking congregation and I also see this happening.

Without giving away my old congregation, this is in the North West of the UK

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Young Ones Leaving

by pale.emperor in

in the congregation that i grew up in there were about 30 children under 16 (myself included).

as time went on they one by one slipped away from the meetings and most never got baptized.

of those 30 children only myself and two other girls stayed and got baptized.

pale.emperor

In the congregation that i grew up in there were about 30 children under 16 (myself included). As time went on they one by one slipped away from the meetings and most never got baptized. Of those 30 children only myself and two other girls stayed and got baptized. Of us three myself and one girl have "fell away".

So by the example 1 in 30 young ones actually stay in the organization. Wether the girl still in actually beleives it is another matter, she's married with children now so for all we know could be staying because she's comfortable. Comfort was the reason i stayed two years longer than i should have. I stopped believing it but carried on for two years because i didn't know anyone outside the JW religion.

So my old KH is full of old ones. New members that come in aren't young, they're 30yo+. I hear that this congregation is merging with another one because they very rarely fill even half the seats. My last congregation it's the same story. Only they're merging THREE congregations together.

I think it's a clear sign that the governing body have no idea how to keep young intelligent minds "in" this religion. So many rules to abide by that are unreasonable.

I was speaking to someone only yesterday about my old JW life and she was surprised that the little ones are supposed to sit there in meeting and conventions listening to the same thing as the adults. Nothing entertaining or exciting about it - even for adults.

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More money-grubbing: Give us your money even if you can't afford food

by bohm in

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the message would appear to be that jehovah needs money more than that old lady needs food:.

.

pale.emperor

Notice how the "wayward" child has a beard?

Ah yes, when a young one wakes up and leaves it's "them" thats the problem and the parents who are suffering. No one mentions that the poor lad may have been kicked out of the family home here.

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Ridiculous ways you kept your "time going" in service?

by HereIgo in

i used to go out early mornings with 2 pioneer elders, we would drive 20 miles out of the territory (a big no-no) to look for hikers to preach to lol of course there were never any hikers.

then off to starbucks for another hour lol easy way to count 2-4 hours.

i am chuckling as i write this, what a joke!.

pale.emperor

I would blatantly make up hours on my slip. I did the same for my wife too (she never handed a report in, i'd do it for her).

I was doing about 5 hours a month (tops) but putting down 8 or 9. Never placed mags coz i never tried but i'd put something like 12 mags, 4 books.

I'd work with my brother in law or wife or mother in law and we'd just feather knock and walk slowly. It was an hour of hell and acting as if you were "into it" every time.