Posts by pale.emperor

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Dinner plans canceled because "I need to talk to the elders". Huh?

by Darkknight757 in

so this past week the wife and i have received several phone calls and text messages from our old hall.

we were also invited out to dinner to catch up with some old friends.

an hour before dinner this guys wife messaged my wife and said that she "can't wait for tonight!!

pale.emperor

I think you had a lucky escape there. They sound like terrible dinner guests anyway.

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FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion

by AndersonsInfo in

i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.

eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.

she died because of her religious principles.

So sad and my heart goes out to her and her child. I know she signed that blood card thinking it was what her God wants, but as we all know this has nothing to do with what the bible says and everything to do with control and guilt and cult indoctrination.

I don't know (or care) I'd god exsists, but if he does may he/she/they bless her soul.

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Today I Dropped In To Field Service Meeting

by pale.emperor in

i just dropped my daughter off to her mum at her parents house.

it was 12pm and i knew they meet for feild service there but my ex and i assumed they would still be out knocking on doors.

i pull up in the street and there's quite a few cars parked up and the house was backed with jdubs from my old congregation.

pale.emperor

I just dropped my daughter off to her mum at her parents house. It was 12pm and I knew they meet for feild service there but my ex and I assumed they would still be out knocking on doors. I pull up in the street and there's quite a few cars parked up and the house was backed with Jdubs from my old congregation. They must have all been invited back for tea and cakes etc.

Now, I'll be damned if any Jdub is gonna make me feel awkward in a free country so I get out the car. Set up the pram, put my 2yo in it and stroll up the driveway. Well, you've never see so many people exit a room so fast. My ex rushed to the door embarrassed and took the pram off me. I picked our daughter up and, like any normal father, talked about her asthma, when she last used her inhaler and what did the Dr say about her new medicine? My ex said "can u ring me later and talk then?" I said no, I'm here already. So she started talking to me about our daughters health n doc apppointents etc.

Then two elders appear behind her just watching and listening. I said hi to them both. One walked away while the other stayed. The one who walked away I could hear in another room saying to my ex father in law "he's just trying to make us feel awkward he'll be gone soon".

So I put my daughter down and she runs off to play with the JW kids. Then runs back and gives me a hug and a kiss then runs off again.

As I leave other witnesses leave and have pretend conversations with each other as they pass me. I smiled all friendly and made solid eye contact.

I couldn't help but stretch my arms, sigh and say "ooo sssshit"

i feel a lot better.

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Hilarious Radio Standup By An Ex-Witness

by pale.emperor in

guys, you gotta check this out.

she explains the whole religion in a very funny way.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07x6mf3#play.

pale.emperor

Guys, you gotta check this out. She explains the whole religion in a very funny way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07x6mf3#play

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Extreme rules on Dating – is this for all congregations?

by Bonnie_Clyde in

just found out that in the congregation we used to attend there are two young brothers, both are sons of elders and recently engaged to girls in neighboring congregations.

instructions are that they may not sit together at assemblies or meetings.

but get this….they can’t even ride in the same car even if their parents are also in the car.

pale.emperor

I knew one elder that made his daughter and her boyfriend sit with an inflated balloon between them.

Needless to say she ended up quite a rebel and left "the truth" as soon as she was old enough to move out. I hear she's a pole dancer now.

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Crisis of Conscience Raymond Franz

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

this book has been recommended to me a few times.

is it worth reading?.

how could i get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on amazon and ebay?

pale.emperor

This book is a must read.

I remember reading ABOUT it when i was a Jdub and i had a hatred for Ray Franz as a Judas. Because i was TOLD that he was lying apostate. When i had doubts i started reading it and i was surprised at how kind he actually was. Everything he talked about he backed up with facsimiles, Elders letters, Watchtower/Awake mags (even giving date, issue and page numbers) and discussed some things that the Watchtower later had to come clean about. I absolutely could not fault the man or his writing. It was so humble yet to the point and fair.

14

Impact of NWT

by menrov in

hi all, just recently i was thinking about the period of my study and eventual baptism as jw.

it took many years, i guess in all about 10 years.

various times i stopped the study but after a while it started again.

pale.emperor

Maybe one liberal elder might let you use another bible. But the other two elders who "go through your baptism questions" wouldnt. I think it'd seriously hamper you getting baptized.

I myself used to collect different Bibles for study and comparison. I was treated with caution by uber Jdubs. When asked the trick question of "what do you think the best translation is?" I'd always reply "the original Hebrew and Greek".

Shut them up.

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A JW Calling Down Evil Upon Others!

by Divergent in

jw
friends

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stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/0185f744fb5e464488b296f2b74e4ccd.html

pale.emperor

She sounds like a real catch.

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Going To A Christening Next Week

by pale.emperor in

so my girlfriends, friend has invited me to her little boy's christening.

6 months ago if you'd asked me this i'd have recoiled in horror.

in a catholic church?!!!

pale.emperor

So my girlfriends, friend has invited me to her little boy's christening. 6 months ago if you'd asked me this I'd have recoiled in horror. ME?!! In a CATHOLIC CHURCH?!!! Baptizing a baby?!!!

But since I've left and stopped reading the mags/books and the bible and stopped praying to the invisible catholic mistranslation in the sky i have no problem attending. This morning my gf and i were laughing because i dont know what goes on. She told me the priest is gay and his boyfriend left his wife so that they could live together. That we'll all sing a hymn but no one actually knows the words so we'll all be miming (just like my old KH then). Afterward the priest may shake hands with you walking out of the church.

I've never been inside a church. Or experienced another religion's service. This'll be fun.

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Serious question..Leviticus 20:15 Why slay the beast???

by James Mixon in

it's not as if the sheep was trying to seduce the shepherd, the poor creature was violated.

we have come a long way from those days, thank goodness.

so why slay the sheep or beast?????

pale.emperor

[Pale Emperor puts on his JW head for a moment, the head that could invent reasons at the drop of a hat]

ahem... i believe because animals were peoples property they would be destroyed by invading Israelite so that nothing of the old inhabitants remained.

As killing the animal that was raped, well, in "gods eyes" it would be seen as unclean. Not fit for sacrifice or food.

[Pale Emperor puts on his reasonable head again]

Interesting article here from a Jewish scholar who claims that the animals were created as potential mates for Adam but that he rejected them all. I've heard this claim before from Rabbi Mordechai Kraft.

http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/bestiality-in-jewish-bible.html