Posts by pale.emperor

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I feel like I'm losing my religion/faith

by christina1111 in

i'm a baptized jw...been baptized for 8 years...and throughout the years i've been baptized i see "hypocrisy" so to speak in the religion...when you're new and not baptized that's when the jws want to invite you to every gathering they have, they want to appear like they're your best friend...they want to help you out when needed and so forth...however, once you're baptized you go to the elders for help they don't help you....all they do is gather you around the office...have bibles in hand and so forth...they give you articles as well, instead of physically helping you out....but yet when you weren't baptized they would physically help you out and not throw scriptures and articles in your face.

also when you ask for help and so forth with the bros/sisters they want to throw the "each one must carry his/her own load" scripture at you.....but yet what happened to the scripture of taking care of widows and people who are orphans?.

it's not just one congregation...throughout the 8 years i've been baptized i've been through many kingdom halls...many towns...many states...when i was inactive for awhile i even pretended to not be baptized and just play dumb when the witnesses came to my door...they're much nicer to you when you're not baptized then when you are baptized...why is that?.

pale.emperor

Welcome Christina. I was exactly where you are now, 9 months ago. You're smart, you're seeing the reality of this "religion". And i congratulate you on the fact that you're being honest to yourself and not keeping it in and for visiting this site.

There are many on here that will support you as they have me. JW's are nice to non believers, they want to portray the religion as the best thing on the earth when in fact they're far from truly happy and at least half of my old congregation were on medication for depression and/or mental health issues. Take a look at this site that tells you how to spot a dangerous cult, it's not even directed at witnesses, but they tick every box.

https://culteducation.com/warningsigns.html

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BOE: Singers for recordings in German - bethel email address uncovered

by Edison Trent in

last week a new letter for the boe in germany was published online.

i want to share it with you (poor translation by google, sorry for that):.

to all service comitees of german speaking congregations.

pale.emperor

When did Prince become a JW? Because his lyrics would make Caligula blush...

"Darling Nikki" (1984): "I knew a girl named Nikki, I guess U could say she was a sex fiend/I met her in a hotel lobby, masturbating with a magazine"

The opening lines to "Darling Nikki" are so shockingly blunt that it's almost comical, especially since no other song from Purple Rain comes close to being this dirty. In fact, this song is so filthy that it landed on Tipper Gore's "Filthy Fifteen" list of songs, which eventually led to those Parental Advisory stickers on albums.

"Sexuality" (1981): "U don't need no money, U don't need no clothes/The second coming, anything goes"

If there's one thing that Christians love, it's a sexual pun based on something from the Bible. That'll definitely go over well.

"Do Me, Baby" (1981): "Take me baby, kiss me all over/Play with my love/Bring out what's been in me 4 far 2 long"

You don't have to explain how intercourse works, Prince. We get it. Hopefully she gets it, too.

"Jack U Off" (1981): "If you're tired of the masturbator/Come on over 2 my neighborhood/We can jump in the sack and I'll jack U off"

Just look at that title. If Tipper Gore thought that "Darling Nikki" was filthy enough to warrant a Senate hearing, she probably would have sent the military to invade Minneapolis and detain Prince if she ever heard "Jack U Off".

"Little Red Corvette" (1982): "U had a pocket full of horses/Trojan and some of them used...I'm gonna try 2 tame your little red love machine"

Prince, why would you hang with anybody who carries around used condoms in their pocket? That seems too gross even for you. Make sure she gives you one of the wrapped ones.

"Delirious" (1982): "My temperature's runnin' hot/Baby U got 2 stop/'Cuz if U don't I'm gonna explode/And girl, I got a lot"

I'm sure whoever it is Prince is singing to in this song appreciates the warning.

"Let's Pretend We're Married" (1982): "Look here, Marsha, I'm not saying this just 2 be nasty/I sincerely wanna f**k the taste out of your mouth"

...This is absolutely terrifying. Ladies, if any man says this to you, even if it's Prince, you should probably call the police.

"International Lover" (1982): "If 4 any reason there is a loss in cabin pressure/I will automatically drop down 2 apply more/2 activate the flow of excitement"

Prince wrote an extended air-travel related innuendo without a single reference to the mile-high club. This is why he's a national treasure.

"Head" (1980): "I'll give U head/Til you're burning up/Head/Til U get enough/Head/Til your love is red/Head love til you're dead"

Prince, I'm pretty sure she's going to tell you to stop at some point before she dies, so don't go setting aside the rest of your life to do this.

"Lovesexy" (1988): "Oh pretty little whip/U got me drippin'/Drippin' all over the floor, the floor"

I know he's probably talking about sweat, but he could so easily be talking about something else here.

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Anyone read the latest Awake (on the supernatural)?

by LoveUniHateExams in

just read some of this latest awake on the org's webshite.. it begins by talking about the 'supernatural' - wizards, witches, vampires, etc.

- their popularity and why they might appeal to people.

then it goes on to state the wt belief that someone is 'behind it'.. now, i like a few horror/scary films - when i was a kid, i always actually liked being a bit scared by them, tbh.. the silence of the lambs, a nightmare on elm street (1984), the ring, the witch, the thing (1982) and a few others are all great, imo.. they are just genres and subgenres of film, that's all.

pale.emperor

Schnell, gotta love Jack Chick in all his crazy glory.

My whole family has lots of demonic stories and experiences - but when you press them for details they contradict themselves. I stopped believing in the supernatural after reading Derren Brown's Tricks Of The Mind. He debunks all of that. Now i think to myself, if anything supernatural did happen to me I'd claim James Randi's $1m prize money. So far, nothing has come up.

My family used to say having any other bible translation outside the NWT would bring demons in. Also, second hand clothes, Harry Potter DVDs, books on conjuring tricks etc. Which is strange because my home is full of Hindu idols and so far i haven't had a sniff of a demon. Slept like a baby since the day i left the cult actually.

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Homeless guy begs with the Watchtower

by ShirleyW in

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after that crazy story about the bride and groom going out in service in their wedding attire, that reminded me of a scene yesterday in one of the subway stations, a disheveled homeless guy had one hand out begging for some money, "does anyone have some spare change to help me " he kept saying, in his other hand was a copy of the magazine.

so what must've happened was some dub passed him by and instead of giving him a quarter gave him a copy of the latest publication.

although some of the beggars use their money for alcoholic beverage anyway instead of food i'm sure that magazine will be put to good use when he feels the need to take a squat somewhere and needs some paper.

pale.emperor

When i last visited Germany i noticed almost all the homeless/beggers had Watchtower magazines. The witnesses get to count them as placements in their report and the homeless get to wipe their ass after taking a dump in a dark ally somewhere. Everybody wins.

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What is the name of this specific book?

by QuestionAskerPersonMan in

i'm taking a class, and we are learning about jws.

my teacher is talking about a "big brown book" that is used for any questions or scriptures quoted by the person who jws are talking to.

he used it in the context that if they don't know the answer off the top of their head, they look for the verse in this book.. what is the name of this book?.

pale.emperor

Sorry, my bad. I actually never even seen this book. I was of the CD Rom class.

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What is the name of this specific book?

by QuestionAskerPersonMan in

i'm taking a class, and we are learning about jws.

my teacher is talking about a "big brown book" that is used for any questions or scriptures quoted by the person who jws are talking to.

he used it in the context that if they don't know the answer off the top of their head, they look for the verse in this book.. what is the name of this book?.

pale.emperor

Reasoning From The Scriptures - but it wasnt big, it was the same size as the songbooks.

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Cart Witnessing On Their Wedding Day

by pale.emperor in

this photo is doing the rounds on jw inspirational on instagram.

although the brothers and sisters think this is "oh so amazing" and "so cool" it's actually very sad and quite shocking.

what, people cant even enjoy their wedding day without the cult invading their special day.

pale.emperor

i attended a district assembly in Sheffield UK on my honeymoon.

hahahahahaha!! Oh Stan, im sorry mate.

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Does enforced shunning violate free will?

by poopie in

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and ..

pale.emperor

Perhaps I am wrong, but I was under the impression that freely and openly associating with a disfellowshipped person is something one can get disfellowshipped for. Therefore, if that person does not shun, then they will be shunned themselves. That sounds like "enforced shunning" to me.

That's what i used to think. But actually, in Shepherd The Flock Of God page 116 it says:

So there is a loop hole. But because this is in the secret elders manual the rank and file wont know this.

I thought about the OP's question when i first left. The majority of JW's who are actively shunning are doing so because they're told to. It has nothing to do with the perceived sin the person may have committed. This is proven in the fact that most family members will still speak to you until your announcement is made. If you ask them they say its to "keep the congregation clean" or that they "choose to stay loyal to Jehovah". Of course some will pull 1 Corinthians 5:11 out of their ass and use this as "proof". But this isn't really the case because if the GB abolished shunning i guarantee that 99.9999999% of JW's would suddenly start talking to you again.

It violates free will because the person doing the shunning may want to talk to someone, but they know there'll be consequences if they do. When in fact, there shouldn't be. An abusive relationship indeed.

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Cart Witnessing On Their Wedding Day

by pale.emperor in

this photo is doing the rounds on jw inspirational on instagram.

although the brothers and sisters think this is "oh so amazing" and "so cool" it's actually very sad and quite shocking.

what, people cant even enjoy their wedding day without the cult invading their special day.

pale.emperor

This photo is doing the rounds on JW inspirational on Instagram. Although the brothers and sisters think this is "oh so amazing" and "so cool" it's actually very sad and quite shocking. What, people cant even enjoy their wedding day without the cult invading their special day. They cant even have ONE DAY devoted to them.

I actually think this would put people off approaching, what sort of crazies do this on their wedding day.

Im told this is brother and sister Cholokashvili from the Supsa congregation in Poti, Georgia (the country, not the US state). Lets hope this isnt in their wedding album because when one of them wakes up and leaves they'll look back and cringe.

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BOE: Singers for recordings in German - bethel email address uncovered

by Edison Trent in

last week a new letter for the boe in germany was published online.

i want to share it with you (poor translation by google, sorry for that):.

to all service comitees of german speaking congregations.

pale.emperor

Brothers and sisters with a vocal education? Sorry brothers, you told us we couldn't pursue further education because armageddon was just around the corner.

Jazz? WTF?!!