Watch this space, the next "new light" will be abandoning the 1914 date.
pale.emperor
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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure
by pale.emperor inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.
no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.
instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .
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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure
by pale.emperor inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.
no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.
instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .
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pale.emperor
Why on earth would they voluntarily bring up that topic?
People who lived through it (as I did) will recognize the sleight of hand, blaming "some" when in fact it was the WTS itself which introduced, then hyped, the date.
People who didn't live through it are capable of googling to find out about, or even if they are utter JW loyalists, looking up info on WT Library on it. Those Watchtower quotes are on the CD / DVD.
It's a stupid unforced error. What possible good comes from bringing up the most embarrassing teaching* in the past 50 years?
* Edit - maybe "2nd most embarrassing" - the "overlapping generations" thing is on the same order of magnitude.Only reason i can think of is maybe people are talking about 1975 and researching outside JWorg and the org want to nip it in the bud now. When i was "in" i did research 1975 on the WT Library CD Rom. Read what it said and did think to myself "if i were alive back then i'dve thought it as well". But thought no more about it.
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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure
by pale.emperor inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.
no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.
instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .
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pale.emperor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO3ARNNSfKk&feature=youtu.be
No mention whatsoever that it was Watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date. Instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not Jehovah".
Let's recap...
"Does God's rest day parallel the time man has been on earth since his creation? Apparently so. In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of Gods rest day come to an end? The year 1975. It means that within a relatively few years we will witness the fulfilment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the "time of the end"." Awake! 1966 Oct 8 pp.19-20
"It did not take the brothers very long to find the chart beginning on page 31, showing that 6,000 years of man's existence end in 1975. Discussion of 1975 overshadowed about everything else. "The new book compels us to realize that Armageddon is, in fact, very close indeed," said a conventioner. Surely it was one of the outstanding blessings to be carried home!" .. Brother Franz. 'Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah's witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. But we are not saying. All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don't any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975. But the big point of it all is this, dear friends: Time is short. Time is running out, no question about that." Watchtower 1966 Oct 15 pp.629,631
"Well now, as Jehovah's Witnesses, as runners, even though some of us have become a little weary, it almost seems as though Jehovah has provided meat in due season. Because he's held up before all of us, a new goal. A new year. Something to reach out for and it just seems it has given all of us so much more energy and power in this final burst of speed to the finish line. And that's the year 1975. Well, we don't have to guess what the year 1975 means if we read the Watchtower. And don't wait 'till 1975. The door is going to be shut before then. As one brother put it, "Stay alive to Seventy-Five"" - 1967 District Convention, Wisconsin Sheboygan District Overseer Brother Charles Sunutko
"The immediate future is certain to be filled with climactic events, for this old system is nearing its complete end. Within a few years at most the final parts of Bible prophecy relative to these "last days" will undergo fulfillment." Watchtower 1968 May 1 p.272
"With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting-in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man's existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. ... Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility ." Watchtower 1980 Mar 15 p.17
I rest my case m'lord.
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Best Website in the world - JWORG
by TheWonderofYou injw believe that jworg is the best website and most translated in the world.. i heard this today in streetservice.
there was already a thread about this subject.
anybody can link it?.
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pale.emperor
As far as i know it is indeed the most translated.
Free labour is a wonderful thing.
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International School Of Exorcism
by pale.emperor inwhat a wonderfully hilarious read.
bob larson, the crazy born again bible thumping idiot, will teach you how to exorcise demons and even satan himself.
is he giving this vital lifesaving information away for free?
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pale.emperor
Apparently people do buy it. Like these guys who all learned how to exorcise a gay demon.
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A question to ask U.K. J.W.'s
by The Searcher in"has the moors murderer ian brady's own death absolved him of his sins?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39929538.
then tell them to explain the j.w.
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pale.emperor
Yes, according to Watchtower doctrine this serial child torturer, rapist and murder who recorded the screams of a dying little girl and photographed her for his own gratification will get a resurrection.
You and i however, will not.
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May 15, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Regular Pioneers
by wifibandit inmay 15, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: regular pioneers.
uk version.
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pale.emperor
Personally, my report slip was a work of fiction for the last 5 years. They'd give me a hard time if i reported less than 8 hours a month so i decided to just f**k it and put 10 hours a month and random mags/books/studies. They stopped bothering me then.
Yes, a blank report slip was my canvas. My ex-wife never put in her report slip, she always forgot so i did it for her. Again, it was all fiction.
One time the secretary text me saying he'd received two report slips from my then wife with different hours (one i'd put in her for and one she'd put in herself). I told him to record whichever was higher. I hint that we're just making it up.
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May 15, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Regular Pioneers
by wifibandit inmay 15, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: regular pioneers.
uk version.
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pale.emperor
18. Infirm Regular Pioneers: In rare circumstances, a brother or sister may be approved to remain as a pioneer without having a minimum hour requirement. This provision is only for exemplary, longtime pioneers who have a heartfelt desire to serve always as regular pioneers and who feel they would be taking a backward step if they had to discontinue but who are unable to meet the hour requirement because of infirmity. The elders may consider designating such a pioneer as an infirm regular pioneer if he (1) is over 50 years old and (2) has pioneered for at least 15 cumulative years. This decision should be made only after consulting with the circuit overseer regarding the situation. This arrangement is not a provision to allow an individual to care for sick relatives, do added secular work, and so forth. Those who first enter the pioneer service when they are 60 or 70 years old do not come under this arrangement simply because of their age. There is no need to give consideration to allowing an older pioneer who develops health problems to serve as an infirm regular pioneer if he is willing to transfer to the publisher ranks.
Nowhere in this letter does it show love and/or concern for the elderly or infirm brothers and sisters. It's all about totting up those hours, can they meet the hour requirement? They want to care for their sick relatives? Too bad!
So glad im not a member anymore.
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I want to know what celebrations JWs don't consider pagan?
by Chook ini could only think of weddings and wedding anniversaries .
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pale.emperor
Lets see. The only celebrations i knew of in my JW years where:
Weddings
Wedding Anniversaries
That's it. A baptism wast celebrated like a party or anything. You'd get them a card but that's about it.
Lets not forget "surprise day" which, in my family, always happened to be just before or after Dec 25th. Mum would cook a turkey dinner, we'd swap presents etc.
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BBC Panaroma TV - Contaminated Blood: The Search for the Truth
by darkspilver infyi.
bbc panaroma tv - contaminated blood: the search for the truth.
10 may 2017. it has been called the worst treatment disaster in the history of the nhs.
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pale.emperor
So JW did us all by resisting and forcing in the research of blood reduction a yet much greater favour.
JW backed the right horse. Is this only explainable by human efforts of a handful of JW - protagonists convinced the medical society to shift the paradigma from blood transfusion to blood management?
Wasnt it much more Jehovas spirit ?
Hardly. Medical science is advancing all the time. How many JW's donated blood to be used in blood fractions? How many funded scientific research into non blood?
BioMed Central (written by doctors for doctors and those studying medicine) states:
The use of cell salvage techniques in vascular surgery has the potential to prevent the use of homologous blood transfusions, but in reality that does not appear to occur. The risk for transmission of disease by blood transfusions is sufficiently low that the use of the Cell Saver does not appear to have an impact on the individual patient. Cost savings only occur when there is a high blood loss and a high RBC salvage rate. If the surgeon is concerned, the reservoir is the optimal method to use in cases that have the potential for high blood loss, and if excessive blood loss does occur then the cell salvage device can be activated.