Posts by pale.emperor

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"Even if this wasn't the truth, I would still stay. This is the best life to live..."

by HereIgo in

i was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.

does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?

or is that just my wishful thinking?

pale.emperor

I've heard this so many times. Embarrassingly, I've even said it myself when i was a JW.

The best life to live? Compared to what exactly? If you were born in like i was what was i even comparing it to?

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A disturbing reaction.

by longgone in

earlier today i was listening to a you tube video about brain plasticity, how our minds aren't hardwired, and that by changing the way we think it can make actual physical changes in the brain.

which is cool for many reasons.

one in particular for me and likely any ex jw is that the way the wts has programmed us, especially those born in, can eventually get past it.

Personally, i found exposing myself to the actually EVIDENCE and PROOF of Watchtower lying in court, the UN letter and their twisting of scripture to be very helpful. Once you lose all respect for those bumbling old fools in Warwick you stop feeling guilty or afraid of "but what if it is the truth™?!"

It's also made me very skeptical of all religions. Particularly Christianity and Islam.

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I think it's possible for a change of trend in JW growth

by Chook in

just like after decades of memorial partakers declining and now reversed.

this information age might reverse the trend of jw membership.

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pale.emperor

As long as the great and powerful GB and make looking at old light and apostate material "a sin" then people will stay indoctrinated. However, more and more outrageous things are being said on JWBroadcasting that im sure people are waking up but still arnt diving into JWFacts. Probably just bobbing along thinking when the GB die and are replaced by GB 2.0 they'll have a better religion. As tightpants Tony said this month "This is the best imperfect organization there is!"

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Stoned at the meeting.

by Fader812 in

besides myself who else went to the meetings stoned?.

pale.emperor

Not stoned, but it did give a number 4 talk drunk. Dont think anybody noticed because nobody really listens anyway.

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There is always one!

by Isambard Crater in

jw
friends

i am pimo but attended the r.c yesterday for family pressure reasons.

a "sister" i've not seen for a while told me her husband is overjoyed because a man he called on recently in the field service suddenly told him he wanted to attend the r.c.

the unusual thing is, this man is a millionaire having built a property portfolio.

pale.emperor

Maybe he's ill and wants to be "insured" in case it is the truth. Although, i could think of a lot more appealing afterlives than the JW version.

Give me Valhalla any day of the week.

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This convention talk offended me

by Isambard Crater in

here are my notes from the r.c yesterday, the talk called "jehovah – the greatest example of endurance".

many of you will understand why i found it offensive.. jehovah has taken the hard option of choosing to endure:.

reproach to his holy name.

pale.emperor

Funny... since Jehovah is waiting longer and longer more and more people are being born into poverty in Africa, child abuse, rape, disease etc. So more people are going to die than he's going to save.

Ass.

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Anyone taken the Metropolitan Museum of Art JW tour, "The Woman and Her Offspring"?

by Cadellin in

these are apparently private tours by jws (pios who do it for a "contribution," i believe), who highlight the "historical evidence" for various bible events or prophecies.

there are a variety of themes, but i had a relative just take one on the woman and the seed/offspring (is "offspring" the new word for jws?).

she thought it was the most amazing thing since sliced bread but i was curious if anyone here has taken one and what their take is....

pale.emperor

I've taken one in the British Museum. Some Bethelites had a side thing going where they'd do a bible tour for a "contribution". At the time i was a JW and found it informative and interesting. But looking back i now realize he was just showing us ancient Egyptian/Babylonian things that are mentioned in the bible, it doesn't prove the existence of Moses or the red sea incident.

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I'll Be Walking Into The Convention Arena Today

by pale.emperor in

i work in the city, the liverpool convention is this weekend.

what better way to spend my lunch hour than pop over to the liverpool echo arena and see my daughter.

im in jeans, tshirt, adidas tracksuit jacket and worldly beard.

pale.emperor

You're right. Security is stepped up (which is good actually). Although it's real security, not yellow jacket boy that is "reaching out". They've got plastic boxes with what looks like those electronic body search things you see in the airport.

I have to chuckle to myself though:

One of the "cool" cliques is right in front of me. He's in a suit, sunglassses and converse trainers. The girls have short skirts. I give them 2 years before they leave the cult.

Usual douche bag in a white suit.

Quite a few beards here.

One girl has blue hair (she's brave!) looked good though.

Costa Coffee round the corner rammed with JWs in their badges, non JWs wondering whats going on. Im hearing Manchester accents, which is strange because the Manchester one is being held here in a few weeks.

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I'll Be Walking Into The Convention Arena Today

by pale.emperor in

i work in the city, the liverpool convention is this weekend.

what better way to spend my lunch hour than pop over to the liverpool echo arena and see my daughter.

im in jeans, tshirt, adidas tracksuit jacket and worldly beard.

pale.emperor

I have been informed by two trusted JW sources that 2 sisters at different conventions - one in England and one in Scotland - were refused entry to the arenas because they didn't have lapel badges!
Be prepared P.E.
Anyone else experienced this?

I'm prepared...

"Excuse me but isn't this convention open to the public?"

"Wern't you all giving out invitations all over town?"

"Do you own this arena?"

"Are you attempting to stop me seeing my daughter?"

"I'm told this is a wonderful meeting with spiritual food. I've come to enjoy it too."

If all fails I'll just go in through the far left entrance which is for conferences, meetings etc and walk right into the area from there.

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Who can guess the number closest to memorial partakers ?

by Chook in

my punt 16144 , do you like my last three numbers !.

pale.emperor

When I was a jobo, the numbers of 'partakers(tm)' reducing, was seen as a positive sign the end was near. Now, do the new figures mean the end did come and we missed it? Probably an invisible end...oooh, matron.
Do they still publish 'partakers(tm)' these days, sorry, I'm really out of the jobo loop these days.
what about 17 (for the year) and 144 (like Chook) = 17,144

Im told in a recent talk given in the convention, that we're to not take any real notice about the number of memorial partakers because the majority of those taking part are mistaken or mentally ill. Nice. Of course the governing body arnt mentally ill or deluded, no, they really are anointed.