He/she should do whatever they wish, but why would you limit yourself to looking for a partner who shares your superstitions? How about dating a rational person?
Love this!
pale.emperor
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Is it alright for a Disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witness to Date?
by preacherman init is said that a dfed is handed over to satan and left alone in his or her gross unrepentant conduct.
however, you'll agree with me that not all dfeds are living that way.
the truth is that some have actually repented and stopped their bad conducts but have fallen victim to the legalistic and procedural expediences of the wbts which makes it very difficult for some to come back in the shortest period of time.
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pale.emperor
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Is it alright for a Disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witness to Date?
by preacherman init is said that a dfed is handed over to satan and left alone in his or her gross unrepentant conduct.
however, you'll agree with me that not all dfeds are living that way.
the truth is that some have actually repented and stopped their bad conducts but have fallen victim to the legalistic and procedural expediences of the wbts which makes it very difficult for some to come back in the shortest period of time.
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pale.emperor
...which church can you recommend to such a one for finding decent marriage partners?
There are good people inside and outside of churches. Your idea of what is "decent" is subjective and relative. There is no one universal thing that everyone would find desirable in a partner.
But to answer your first question, i wouldnt even bother playing the reinstatement game unless of course you honestly think the Watchtower society has "the truth™". But if you do think that then you need to read JWFacts.com.
Live your life on your terms and you'll find yourself in a happier place.
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Why the vitriolic hate?
by stuckinarut2 ini am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.
why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.
surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.
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pale.emperor
I was researching the subject of "self esteem" for a paper im working on. The Wikipedia article is very enlightening: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-esteem
Give it a read if you have the time. In a nutshell, people with a healthy self esteem display the following characteristics... all of which is abhorrent to Watchtower:
- Firmly believe in certain values and principles, and are ready to defend them even when finding opposition, feeling secure enough to modify them in light of experience.[13]
- Are able to act according to what they think to be the best choice, trusting their own judgment, and not feeling guilty when others do not like their choice.[13]
- Do not lose time worrying excessively about what happened in the past, nor about what could happen in the future. They learn from the past and plan for the future, but live in the present intensely.[13]
- Fully trust in their capacity to solve problems, not hesitating after failures and difficulties. They ask others for help when they need it.[13]
- Consider themselves equal in dignity to others, rather than inferior or superior, while accepting differences in certain talents, personal prestige or financial standing.[13]
- Understand how they are an interesting and valuable person for others, at least for those with whom they have a friendship.[13]
- Resist manipulation, collaborate with others only if it seems appropriate and convenient.[13]
- Admit and accept different internal feelings and drives, either positive or negative, revealing those drives to others only when they choose.[13]
- Are able to enjoy a great variety of activities.[13]
- Are sensitive to feelings and needs of others; respect generally accepted social rules, and claim no right or desire to prosper at others' expense.[13]
- Can work toward finding solutions and voice discontent without belittling themselves or others when challenges arise.[47]
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The most absurd reason have you heard someone disfellowshipped for ?
by Chook insomeone said on forum they knew someone df for not going to assigned meeting in old days .
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pale.emperor
Two girls in the congregation i grew up in were DFd for going to a nightclub... twice. They got them on "brazen conduct" - a free for all meaning "you ignored our advice". They then classed them as unrepentant because they went twice.
Both have not returned and this was 20 years ago.
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Why the vitriolic hate?
by stuckinarut2 ini am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.
why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.
surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.
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pale.emperor
I knew of two local apostates before I left (but I had never met them), one was called "a liar", the other "self-centred". But still I wondered if I were ever to leave, would the local JWs come up with a fair and loving "label" about me? Surely such loving people would! I was wrong. I soon heard from still-in friends that I had been labelled "mental".
If it's any consolation, my labels are "womanizer", "headstrong" and "proud"... but to be fair i am all of those things. And loving every minute of it.
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Why the vitriolic hate?
by stuckinarut2 ini am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.
why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.
surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.
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pale.emperor
It's funny... according to Scientology, their views on ex-members are eerily similar to Watchtowers:
The Suppressive Person seeks to upset, continuously undermine, spread bad news about and denigrate betterment activities and groups. Thus the Anti-Social Personality is also against what Scientology is about—helping people become more able and improving conditions in society. As anyone can think of many examples of a Suppressive Person, this concept is not limited to Scientology. However, when such a person is connected to Scientology, for the good of the Church and the individuals in it, such a person is officially labeled a Suppressive Person so that others will know not to associate with them.
To be declared a Suppressive Person is extremely rare and results in expulsion from the Scientology religion. This occurs in instances of serious offenses against the Scientology faith and can also occur when an individual is found to be actively working to suppress the well-being of others. This can be done through criminal acts already recognized by society as unlawful or through the commitment of acts deemed Suppressive Acts in the Scientology Justice Codes—which includes the Suppressive Act of publicly renouncing the faith, an act which in Scientology, as well as almost every religion, is grounds for automatic expulsion.
When someone has been expelled from the religion, that person loses both his or her fellowship with the Church as well as with other Scientologists. The condition lasts until they have been restored to good standing. Once the person has been restored to good standing, the prohibition against fellowship with other Scientologists is lifted. Similar practices have been part of religious communities for thousands of years and have been recognized by courts of law as a fundamental right.
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ex-jw-uk
by bigmac ini'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.
i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?
i've already found several by reading older posts..
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pale.emperor
Aaawww....no one from the North west then?
Im from Liverpool.
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Has anyone else recently been contacted by a once close JW friend or relative? Could this be a new JW tactic?
by Latte inhmmmm...yesterday my long life friend called my landline after many years of silence.
now the shock has subsided, i am wondering if i can forgive and forget the fact she chose not to keep in touch throughout a time in my life which was very stressful.
sadly, i gathered that she is still involved with jehovah’s witness faith.
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pale.emperor
There's no way the cult would tell members to do this. They're afraid of active members speaking to awake exJWs.
It's most likely your friends curiosity is getting the better of her, maybe she has doubts herself.
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Gerrit Losch Claims JW's Attending College Are Spiritually Weak
by pale.emperor inhttps://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.
the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.
i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.
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pale.emperor
"Going to college is like putting a rifle in your mouth and pulling the trigger - you might survive, but we dont recommend it".
People dont go to college with the intention of ending their life. The opposite in fact. It's to better their life.
So let's rephrase that shall we?
"Joining the Jehovah's Witnesses is like putting a rifle in your mouth and pulling the trigger - you might survive, but we dont recommend it".
"Refusing a blood transfusion is like putting a rifle in your mouth and pulling the trigger - you might survive, but we dont recommend it".
"Shunning your own family for the rest of your life is like putting a rifle in your mouth and pulling the trigger - you might survive, but we dont recommend it".
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Juarez MX Assembly Kingdom Hall to be sold.
by ironsnake656 inthere are several confirmed announcements in some congregations around the city regarding the sale of the assembly kingdom hall.
one of the reasons why it will be sold is that expenses are not covered by donations.
the hall was dedicated in 2009. actually, in some congregations the elders have not given the announcement for the publisher's reaction... .
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pale.emperor
Excellent news. Jehovah sure is becoming more and more incompetent isn't he?
It'll be a WallMart by Christmas. Watch this space.