Posts by pale.emperor

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What is sin?

by sinboi in

what do you consider sinful?

okay, i know many of you no longer believe that there is a god.

just bear with me a little, just assumed that there is a creator or god.

pale.emperor

I don't believe in sin. I don't believe I'm born with sin.
But I do have some kind of sense of right and wrong.
Most if not all of my sense of right and wrong is covered by law, e.g. I believe that driving a car after drinking 10 pints is wrong - and it happens that this is illegal, too.

I agree with LoveUniHateExams. Sin is an invention to keep people in line. Think about it, if you wanted to sell medicine to someone who wasnt even sick you'd need to convince them that they were sick and that you have the remedy. This is what religion does. In most religions they invented this idea of hell or eternal cutting off from God. The only way to not go there is do as i say. Keep them thinking that they're not worthy, that they're "dust", that they need God in their lives.

There are things i consider immoral and abhorrent that are legal. And there are illegal things that i have no problem with. I use my own morality, common sense and empathy to guide me.

I am my own God.

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Not a lot of young people

by Akid48 in

i have look around and im counting 5-18 for young aka kids or teens we only have 4 includeing me that can think on there own and are teens.the only other kids there are 3 5 or to young to even think that there mom or dad are wrong on any thing.. just wanting to know if any if any one see this at a kingdom hall..

pale.emperor

Last congregation i was in there was over 20 kids under 18. The rest are 30+ and the majority are 70+. Those kids will wake up soon enough.

But the congregation i was brought up in now has only 1 person in their 20s. Everyone else is old.

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Yoga for JWs

by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

i was chatting with my very jw pioneer mother (aged 65) and out of the blue she tells me she is sore from a particular pose she did in yoga class.

"wait, what??

" i say in my mind.

pale.emperor

When i was in there was a young sister that was into Yoga. Dont think she knew it was forbidden by Watchtower. I never said anything and she never mentioned it elders (why would she?).

She was hot too.

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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

by mrmagic in

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

pale.emperor

I cant sit through a single one of their videos. They do seem like really nice people but they also look and sound like exactly the WTs definition of "apostate". I think they come across and bitter and angry.

Also, i think they're Christians now? <rolls eyes>

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My Mothers Ultimate Rejection

by What Now? in

i went into my mother's office to leave her a small note to say that we love and miss her and would love to get together.

i found this on her desk.

this is jehovah's witnesses.

pale.emperor

This is so sad. She's so indoctrinated. See what this cult does!!

My heart goes out to you.

Im in a similar situation in that my mother tells people im dead. Her non JW acquaintances literally think i died. That's messed up right? I had to take the action of disowning myself from the family and i've been A LOT happier since doing that because it means i can move on.

Hugs to you xx

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Free to sin but still cannot bring myself to do it

by sinboi in

have da'd myself nearly 3 months ago.

now i am part of this world but i feel myself the odd one out.

something inside me is still blocking me to do the things i have been longing to do while i was still a jw, such as attending birthday parties, sex, etc.... just last nite, i was on the way to attend a birthday party.

pale.emperor

Sinboi, can you prove to me that the Satanic Bible is not true?

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Another lie. This time from the UK Branch

by alanv in

andrew schofield, a spokesman for jehovah’s witnesses in britain, states: “for almost 60 years, our administrative operations for britain have been located in london.

however, larger facilities became necessary due to the increased demand for bible-related literature and materials.

we began site preparation on the 34-hectare (approx.

pale.emperor

Increased demand? Demand from who exactly? Not the public that's for sure. Demand within the org, well, yh because you brought out a new bible so the members obviously want a copy of it.

Demand can (and is) fulfulled via PDF and mobi downloads. So dont tell me you need bigger printing factories. You could shut up Warwick and Walkhill and have a one floor office in Birmingham with 30 staff that produces PDFs all week.

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Pale.Emperor And The Hypnotists

by pale.emperor in

jw
friends

even as a jw i was fascinated with hypnosis and seeing people like derren brown putting people under almost instantly.

in the last 2/3 years when i was a jw but beginning to wake up from the bullshit i read up on hypnosis, watched a few youtube demos and explanations etc.

but never actually studied it seriously until about a year ago.

pale.emperor

Do you think suggestibility (for hypnosis) correlates with credulity?
Or with the willingness to accept authority?

That's an interesting thought. It will certainly help. There's a sliding scale of suggestibility, there's a test i could do if i were there with you to tell you how suggestible you'd be. But all in all, everyone can be hypnotized. It's just a case of using the right approach. But even then, while under hypnosis you cant force someone to accept a suggestion they'd find abhorrent.

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Pale.Emperor And The Hypnotists

by pale.emperor in

jw
friends

even as a jw i was fascinated with hypnosis and seeing people like derren brown putting people under almost instantly.

in the last 2/3 years when i was a jw but beginning to wake up from the bullshit i read up on hypnosis, watched a few youtube demos and explanations etc.

but never actually studied it seriously until about a year ago.

pale.emperor

Derren Brown is awesome. I've seen 3 of his shows live and met him in his dressing room through mutual friends. He hypnotizes my daughter every time but even tho I would love him to do it to me it never works. Any idea why?
I use self hypnosis successfully many times tho.

Could be a number of reasons. Paul McKenna told a story how he never managed to hypnotist his mum. Because his mum knew him a Paul McKenna, my son, the one who collects star wars figures and scraped his knee when he was 12 on his new bike. She doesn't see him as "the hypnotist". But another hypnotist would be able to.

In your case, there are different inductions, some work better on certain people but they'd all work. Dont know how much time he spent with you so i cant say. One big thing is the suggestibility test that goes on before they call people up. The ones who are more suggestible get called.

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How many do you figure are converted through the door to door ministry?

by HereIgo in

i regular pioneered for 2 years and never have actually converted anyone through the door to door work, in fact, i only knew a few individuals that joined this way.

most were born-in or at least had some type of family influence.

i had several bible studies but they all got cold feet when things got serious and potential baptism was discussed.

pale.emperor

My record:

Years baptized: 12 (i was born in though)

Average hours a month door knocking: 4 (yeah i hated it)

Estimated number of doors i must have knocked on: 10,000

Number of return visits: 0

Number of interested ones attending the KH because of my visit: 0

Number converted: 0

Massive waste of time. And that's coming from a ministry-lazy JW.