Posts by pale.emperor

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GB Private Gazebo @ Warwick - Someone Proposed There & It Didn't Go Well...

by thedepressedsoul in

at warwick there is a gazebo overlooking the lake.

it's a nice peaceful setting.

well someone had the bright idea they were going to propose while they were at warwick.

pale.emperor

Maybe I'm confused here but who's funds paid for that gazebo?

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At the annual meeting right now . . .

by neat blue dog in

i'm at the recorded meeting right now.

trying to hide my disgust sitting up front listening to geoffrey jackson quibble about the pharisaical minutai of sanctification vs. vindication.

the audience is thrilled that they now have 'permission' to say god's name can be vindicated.

pale.emperor

Can somebody explain to me what the sanctification/vindication thing is all about please?

I'm a Born in, left at age 31 and this is new to me.

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For ELDERS: Kingdom Ministry School for the 2018 Service Year (Picture)

by pixel in

i know wifibandit will post the pdf soon, this is just a snack for you guys and girls.... .

It seems that Jehovah doesnt understand how the human brain works or how we learn. Studies show* we retain more information when we study in 20min bursts, have a 5min break doing something fun, then another 20min learning etc etc.

Look at the length of those talks without a break. No wonder we all fell asleep in those conventions.

*https://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/LEARN/LEARN17.html

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"We don't venerate idols or images!"

by stuckinarut2 in

how often did we as witnesses say something like this : "unlike members of false religion, who venerate or worship through statues or idols, we give our focus to jehovah!".

members of religious groups focus their religious adoration via an image or statue.

they do this in order to provide some sort of focus to their need to worship.. witnesses give extreme focus on the name "jehovah" .

pale.emperor

What's next?
Temple prostitutes?

That might just being me back!

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Jehovah (As Taught By JWs) Offers A Bum Deal

by pale.emperor in

i thought this during my wake up.

if you think about it, jehovahs promise for the faithful is actually a bum deal.

some would even say a con.

pale.emperor

Actually, thinking on, even living a life following the borgs rule 100% still wouldn't guarantee you'd get through. It's only a hope remember.

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"We don't venerate idols or images!"

by stuckinarut2 in

how often did we as witnesses say something like this : "unlike members of false religion, who venerate or worship through statues or idols, we give our focus to jehovah!".

members of religious groups focus their religious adoration via an image or statue.

they do this in order to provide some sort of focus to their need to worship.. witnesses give extreme focus on the name "jehovah" .

pale.emperor

"No, we dont have idols or symbols!"

Where have i seen this before???

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Two coins of little value? Ok! Sure (!)

by purrpurr in

last thursday meeting was the verbal begging bowl item.

in which having told the audience that wt doesn't ask for money... proceeded to then ask for money.. among the usual scriptures cited "honor god with your valuable things" etc was also the widows mite story "she dropped in two coins of little value..".

and it occurred to me, two coins of little value in the uk would be two one penny coins!

pale.emperor

I have long thought the WTS is green with envy when it views the Mormons & how they get away with enforced tithing.
IMO, it's only a matter of time until the WTS implements some form of mandatory tithing. I suspect it will start with "appointed men" ("if you want to keep your 'privileges', cough up the dough") and then spread from there.

I reckon tithing will come in "within our generation" (pun intended). But i think what will happen first is, there'll be a major schism and it'll be like Jehovah 2.0. Same bullshit, new can.

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Meetings are boring

by Akid48 in

meetings are boring for young kids and old but i'm going to focus on young kids 5 or 8.. i think is unfair that young kids get punished for falling asleep or zoning out.. as meetings are not as boring but i have to go to school the next day and staying up till 10pm isn't the best i can't get out of going.. but think of the young kids that dont even understand most of the teachings.. i know most on the site are adults but i heard of adults falling asleep..

pale.emperor

The meetings always were boring. I was born in and left age 31. And i NEVER sat through an entire meeting 100% focused. Most of the time i'd read my bible or something while the boring speaker is giving his boring talk. When tablets came in i even went on JWFacts.com on the KH wifi!

The JWs would be better having childrens classes in the back room. That would actually make it more fun and interesting for them.

It's great that you're waking up now at this young age, wish i did!

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Jehovah (As Taught By JWs) Offers A Bum Deal

by pale.emperor in

i thought this during my wake up.

if you think about it, jehovahs promise for the faithful is actually a bum deal.

some would even say a con.

pale.emperor

I thought this during my wake up. If you think about it, Jehovahs promise for the faithful is actually a bum deal. Some would even say a con. Think about it:

You live a life denying carnal and/or material pleasures to preach and advertise WT. You're constantly on the watch for Armageddon, looking at world events through WT goggles and seeing everything as either persecution or fulfillment of prophecy. You're required to shun those you love who leave or commit some indiscretion that you aren't even told what it is, and isn't any of your business anyway. You forgo further education, put off your talents and hobbies and instead devote yourself to ministerial training school, pioneer school or some other school which could be abandoned at any time and you're not compensated or thanked for your service.

You may die. But you must keep up all of this right up until death because if you slip at the very end your entire service has been for nought.

And even if you do die and are resurrected, you dont even know if you'll be a eunuch in the new system or if you'll still be married or if you're even capable of love in that way. The first thousand years of your immortal life must be spent smashing up and cleaning up the buildings, disposing of corpses and preaching and teaching. Anthony Morris, Joseph Rutherford and Fred Franz are looking down on you from heaven ruling as kings and priests and most likely dictating what trousers we can wear, if we can have oral sex and how many hours body disposing are we to report on our slips?

You know what this is like? A life insurance scam.

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Evolution is a Fact #5 - Vitamin C

by cofty in

part 1 - protein functional redundancypart 2 - dna functional redundancypart 3 - ervspart 4 - smelly genes.

in part 4 we saw that roughly half of the 800 genes in the human genome that code for olfactory receptors are broken remnants of our evolutionary history.

they were vital to our distant ancestors but in humans, as in our primate cousins they have been allowed to fall into disuse as our eyes became more important to our survival than our nose.

pale.emperor

Evolution is a new and fascinating subject to me. I remember visiting the natural history museum in New York and not being able to explain away the skulls that clearly didnt belong to any modern human or gorilla or monkey.

Interesting article cofty. Thanks.