Posts by pale.emperor

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Watch Tower's eBay account

by neat blue dog in

the last post about the violin for sale got me to looking at their ebay account which says it's based in wallkill.

they've got over 200 items for sale, most obsolete electronics that are grossly overpriced.

among them are used hard drives, like this one:.

pale.emperor

Watchtower now have an eBay account. This is priceless.

I wonder what Jesus would do?

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2 BOE's arrived-2018 Newsletter and Visitor Centre Update!

by Atlantis in

2 boe's arrived.. .

2018-01-20--chelmsford visitor centre update.

https://we.tl/wkfhroydcs.

pale.emperor

ALDI have accomplished the same thing here in Liverpool. There's ALDI supermarkets popping up all over the place. Is Jehovah blessing them too?

Surely this is evidence of our creator, the great and powerful German discount supermarket chain accomplishing fantastic things in these last days.

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Using Watchtowers Own Reasoning Against Them RE: The Governing Body

by pale.emperor in

something occurred to me today.

quite randomly as i was working away at my desk i remembered an illustration from the bible teach book in which satan claimed he knew better than jehovah about ruling mankind.

here's the illustration from chapter 11 of that book:.

Something occurred to me today. Quite randomly as i was working away at my desk i remembered an illustration from the Bible Teach book in which Satan claimed he knew better than Jehovah about ruling mankind. Here's the illustration from Chapter 11 of that book:

12 Let us consider an illustration. Imagine that a teacher is telling his students how to solve a difficult problem. A clever but rebellious student claims that the teacher’s way of solving the problem is wrong. Implying that the teacher is not capable, this rebel insists that he knows a much better way to solve the problem. Some students think that he is right, and they also become rebellious. What should the teacher do? If he throws the rebels out of the class, what will be the effect on the other students? Will they not believe that their fellow student and those who joined him are right? All the other students in the class might lose respect for the teacher, thinking that he is afraid of being proved wrong. But suppose that the teacher allows the rebel to show the class how he would solve the problem.

13 Jehovah has done something similar to what the teacher does. Remember that the rebels in Eden were not the only ones involved. Millions of angels were watching. (Job 38:7; Daniel 7:10) How Jehovah handled the rebellion would greatly affect all those angels and eventually all intelligent creation. So, what has Jehovah done? He has allowed Satan to show how he would rule mankind. God has also allowed humans to govern themselves under Satan’s guidance.

14 The teacher in our illustration knows that the rebel and the students on his side are wrong. But he also knows that allowing them the opportunity to try to prove their point will benefit the whole class. When the rebels fail, all honest students will see that the teacher is the only one qualified to lead the class. They will understand why the teacher thereafter removes any rebels from the class. Similarly, Jehovah knows that all honesthearted humans and angels will benefit from seeing that Satan and his fellow rebels have failed and that humans cannot govern themselves. Like Jeremiah of old, they will learn this vital truth: “I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.”—Jeremiah 10:23.

Now lets try this in reverse. Suppose the Governing Body come out with some new ~~shite~~ light. Brother Jones doesn't agree with the new light and claims he knows better. What would the Governing Body do? Would they, like the wise teacher in this illustration, imitate Jehovah and allow Brother Jones to get up in front of the class and explain why? Or would they dismiss him from the class and tell the other students not to listen to him?

What would you think of a teacher that did that? Even the Governing Body claim that for Jehovah to do this would cast doubt on his wisdom and make it look like he doesn't really know what he's doing. And yet it's exactly what the GB do.

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The Constant Mindchatter After You Leave

by pale.emperor in

i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.

it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.

i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".

pale.emperor

Did they live long happy egg laying lives before they entered the stew pot?

LMAO!!

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Has Being a JW affected your SEX Life?

by minimus in

jw
friends

not being a witness has been a plus for my sex life.

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what about you!

pale.emperor

A few months ago i had a 2 month casual arrangement with an active JW pioneer sister
AWESOME! She yell "oh god, oh god oh god" a lot:)
I hope her ambitions were not limited to missionary

She was a deviant. Shocked even me. Sexual repression must bring out the worst (or best) in people, depending on how you look at it.

Sex was mind numbingly boring with my ex, same thing every time, practically no foreplay and same position, only ever in a bed and rolled over and went straight to sleep afterwards. I'm pleased I had lots of fun before I became a witness. I haven't been in another relationship.

Now's the time to fill your boots!

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a question after my first JW meeting

by bleak in

i attended my first jw meeting recently.

first, i would like to say what i agree with about the jehovah's witnesses beliefs and practices.. 1. they don't consider israeli's as "god's chosen people" and they don't worship israel as some holy land filled with righteous jews (although there are some there) as most so-called "christians" (christian zionists) erroneously believe they are instead of the "hypocrites" and "vipers" that it is actually filled with.. 2. they don't celebrate "holidays" like easter and christmas which are, in fact, remnants of earlier pagan practices.. 3. they don't put nation before god and christ.

they don't believe in war or going to war because of some crazy government/cia secret agenda.

pale.emperor

Two words for you...

Check JWFacts.com

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Has Being a JW affected your SEX Life?

by minimus in

jw
friends

not being a witness has been a plus for my sex life.

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what about you!

pale.emperor

When i was a JW my then-wife suffered from depression, anxiety and OCD (yay!). So after a year of marriage sex gradually declined from regular, once a week, once a month and eventually we went the last 3 years not having sex at all.

Now?

Upon leaving i made up for lost time and lived a somewhat libertine lifestyle i don't regret a single one. I've been with all races and a variety of ages. A few months ago i had a 2 month casual arrangement with an active JW pioneer sister. She's still a JW and in good standing, she just didnt tell anyone.

My current girlfriend of 4 months is 22, i'm 33 so im very regular in that dept.

So, you lurkers, if you leave you get to have great sex. Come on out, it's great out here. Pillows are optional.

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Friendship

by Freedom rocks in

jw
friends

how long did you all wait before telling new friends or someone you are or were dating that you used to be a witness?

how did they react?

if you did tell them do they make jokes at you every so often about it 😊 is it best not to tell people?

pale.emperor

I tell everybody. People are actually very interested when they hear i was in a cult. I depends how you do it. Im very outgoing and welcoming to people and let them see that side of me. If/when the conversation switches to family or when we were kids i mention that my family dont have anything to do with me or that i never did brithdays or xmas. Which ALWAYS means they'll ask why and so i tell them i was in a cult.

It's a great un-witnessing opportunity when you get to tell them how you've been disowned simply for leaving.

People make jokes sometimes but then im the first one to joke about it. It all depends how you go about it. If you own it there's no shame at all.

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Marked

by Normalfulla in

ok , my wife and i have faded for a year and a half , i won't bore u with all the details but my wife just got confirmation that her sister got a visit some time ago saying we are marked and my sister also got the same visit in which we were described as dangerous, now for my wife , she has not spoken 1 bad word to anyone about the org apart from me (she woke me up ) the elders came around while i wasn't home and bailed her up but she said she wasn't comfortable talking to them without me there ,so the result ?......

let's do a round of all their friends and say shit about them because we can't df them but let's get them treated the same as if they were .... yeah yeah that's a good idea .... stupid mofos!

out to just wreck the reputation of any defectors from the org .

pale.emperor

The org has really stepped on the cultiness these past few years. Sorry to hear it's gone that way for you.

you might be able to seek legal action for defamation of character. Imagine if you did that to your next door neighbour. It's not right and it's not legal.

Or perhaps make a fake solicitors letter and give them a scare.

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The Constant Mindchatter After You Leave

by pale.emperor in

i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.

it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.

i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".

pale.emperor

Dubstepped - I'd love to :)

May I ask, where do you find peace of mind and comfort? Have you replaced the JWs with something healthy, not necessarily spiritual, but whatever void the JWs filled for you, do you get those needs fulfilled somewhere else (if you were a JW for a reason, not a born-in)?

When i first left i just enjoyed free Thursday evenings and free weekends. I lived a libertine lifestyle for a while and looked into things that were previously verboten. It allowed me to see who i really am and what my personal morals are. It wasn't easy and wasn't always pleasant confronting deep held beliefs and trying to understand if this really was my own belief or was it instilled in me? I studied other religions and philosophies objectively and took on board things i thought were useful and discarded them if they proved harmful or useless. In my search for rationality and pure truth of the world around me, it meant that my views on the origin of humans, abortion, the death penalty, treatment of homosexuals etc all got scrutinized to a high degree.

I find comfort in the fact that it's a miracle i was even born, so i just try to enjoy everything and try everything i want to try. I have a lot of interests and hobbies (too many to pursue entirely) such as photography, languages, music and writing.

My philosophy of life and the way i live is influenced by some Buddhist, some La Vayan Satanist, and general "live and let" live attitude. I now have my own personal morals and i dont force them or preach them on others.