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  Transferring Congregations

  by optimisticskeptic in

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  2. beliefs

  what is included in the publisher cards and other information when you transfer from one congregation to another?

  i was privately reproved and may be moving to a congregation where there are brothers i rather not know why i was privately reproved.

  is the fact i was privately reproved visible but not the reason why?

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  What's included in the letter will be totally at the elders discretion. These guys arnt trained in how to write proper letters like say a HR manager or a teacher. All it would take it one incompetent elder to spill the beans on all your private details.

  In short - it depends on the elders you have. Although if i were you I'd state implicitly that you wish them not to disclose the reason for the reproof. If the matter is supposed to be settled with Jehovah then why dig it up? Ask to see the letter before it's sent.
  

  However, whatever it was, count on it that the entire body of elders will know the in's and out's of what you did - as will their wives, likely their kids and certainly the elders wives friends. I'm speaking from experience as a former elders son in law. We knew the details about Judicial Committee's, reproves, spiritual estimations of congregation members.
  
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  Preaching From The Platform While Secretly A Satanist

  by Teufel in

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  2. experiences

  hello one and all.. i've been a lurker on here for a few weeks now and i am finally starting to post on some threads.

  a lot of the subjects that i wanted to talk about have already been covered so i wont bother restarting a topic that's been done to death.. im a 3rd generation, born-in, jw.

  currently faded.

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  I'd rather people didn't go on shooting rampages because they thought they were wrong, rather than reading a book and someone telling them not to do it.
  
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  Funny News From My Old Congragation - Elder Fight!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.

  a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.

  apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?

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  nowwhat?

  C'mon! every week p.e. has a new story to tell. It's a continuous soap opera of his family and old congregation that never ends.

  And on that note i'll refrain from posting.

  I'll just read the posts and not contribute. Take care everyone!
  
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  Funny News From My Old Congragation - Elder Fight!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.

  a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.

  apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?

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  I haven't stopped laughing since i heard this. A PIMO in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position. Apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... DURING AN ELDERS MEETING on Thursday evening after the meeting.

  The congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do? Call the police? Sweep it under the rug? Tell others? Stay silent?
  

  The elder who got a whack on the nose is a total prick though. He was on the JC when i got DF'd.

  The elder who threw the punch is also a total prick. He once gave an answer in the Watchtower which said, and i quote: "Sometimes it's reasonable to hate. I hate some people in this congregation. But that just means i love them a little less."

  The PIMO brother is friends with an elder (my ex-wifes dad) and he was told they were arguing over wether DF'd people should be made to sit in special chairs at the back.

  The elder body is collapsing from within. Excellent news.
  
  
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  CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/dpq7j8lkc98.

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  This book will see a huge influx of sales from the exJW community. This is what we've all been waiting for for so long.
  
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  2018-List Of Publications Approved For Discard!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  copy & paste;.

  atlantis listed only one form which is the s-60-e--2/18, but there are several items in the zipped folder.. .

  2018 list of publications approved for discard.

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  So.... much... old... light!!........
  

  

  

  
  
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  Oh Boy! Beards are "stumbling blocks" again ... from Stephen Lett

  by freddo in

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  2. friends

  so this week's midweek meeting video about stumbling others has lett spouting and gurning rubbish again.. if you can't take the whole 9 minutes go from 5:50 to get the context and 6:45 for the "beard" mention.. https://youtu.be/ezv1ici5cwo.

  oh, well - at least they shoot themselves in the foot with this doublespeak.

  single.

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  I wonder what their stance is on women shaving their pubic hair?
  

  I may write to bethel (for a laugh) and see if i get an answer.
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  What if Damascus is destroyed fulfilling Isaiah 17 prophecy?

  by sinboi in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't think the wt ever say anything about this prophecy.

  if they did, i think they will say it is symbolic and that it doesn't mean damascus will be destroyed literally,.

  but watching the things happening now in syria , it seems very possible that it could happen.. if this prophecy comes true, will those of you here who have rejected the bible as the word of god think twice regarding the bible?.

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  <sigh>
  

  Listen, eventually, at some point in time Damascus will be destroyed. As will London, Paris, Washington and Sydney. Perhaps not in our lifetime, but certainly 100% in the future.

  How do i know? Not because of some bible prophesy bullshit, but because by observing other small stars like our sun, astrophysicists have learned that one day the sun will cool and expand and engulf this planet and liquidate the earth and everything on it in a millisecond.

  THAT, my friend, will happen. Besides, this planet has destroyed almost all life on it at least 3 times in its 4.5 Billion years. It's bound to happen again a few times before it's destroyed entirely.
  
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  Im Writing An Ex-JW Self Help Book

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we all know waking up from the cult and trying to leave is a very scary and life changing experience.

  for many it's traumatic and few find the transition easy.

  we have to deal with families cutting us off entirely or keeping us at arms length at best, lies being told about us by the organization, ex members gossiping about us and finding ourselves in a world very different from what we're prepared for.. for this reason, i've decided to start writing a self-help book informing jws of what to expect when they leave the org.

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  I will happily contribute some funds to your efforts? Have you started a go-fund-me or something similar?

  Thanks stuck, but i don't think that will be necessary.

  My conscience does not permit me to make money of offering help. It's not as if im gonna publish it in paper and ink. With PDF, epub and mobi and can publish myself.
  
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  Im Writing An Ex-JW Self Help Book

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we all know waking up from the cult and trying to leave is a very scary and life changing experience.

  for many it's traumatic and few find the transition easy.

  we have to deal with families cutting us off entirely or keeping us at arms length at best, lies being told about us by the organization, ex members gossiping about us and finding ourselves in a world very different from what we're prepared for.. for this reason, i've decided to start writing a self-help book informing jws of what to expect when they leave the org.

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  pale.emperor

  Thanks for the sentiments and advice guys.

  I like your interest in helping others. However, in recent years there has been a proliferation of books out there that seem to cover similar ground (i.e., what to do when you leave, etc).

  Check out some of these books which should give you a helpful idea of whether and to what extent your book would be covering the same or similar ground.

  I'm aware of this, this is why it isnt going to be about me or "what JWs believe". It's intended for those who are were JWs and have found themselves DFd or those who have left and find it hard to adjust. Some return simply because they don't know how to cope or because the cult never left them.

  Lloyd Evans is writing one on HOW to leave the JWs. Again, this isnt covering how to leave. It's about surviving after you're already out.
  

  This book intends to fill that gap.