Posts by pale.emperor

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We are giving too much power to the watchtower

by sinboi in

i am just 17. many of you here are much older than me.. i do feel that offering advice here is like teaching my father how to fuck.

but seriously, i do see the problem here.

we are focusing more on the problem than the solution.. i have been reading mind power books for quite some time.

JWs and daily Bible reading schedule

by AuntBee in

jws often point to this, to show outsiders they are allowed to read the bible on their own without the publications.

although, as we know, the org still teaches that you will never progress along the road to life without the pubs.

and, i would imagine that what they learn/conclude from their own bible reading, must remain within the confines of current wt teaching, even on the most minute points of doctrine.

I used to read the bible daily without the Watchtower to hand. I remember that i could not for the life of me read Paul's epistles and come to the conclusion that all Christians weren't going to heaven. I had to constantly dig out Watchtowers and WT books to convince me that he was talking only to a select group in those letters.

33

Learning New Words

by compound complex in

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friends

greetings, fellow lexophiles:.

last night, i watched a cool road movie, the trip, with steve coogan and rob brydon.

they were counseled by steve's dad to take an "anticlockwise" route home, rather than the clockwise one steve had proposed.

pale.emperor

I think other languages have better words than English for certain things.

We use the words "full stop" rather than "period" for the little dot at the end of a sentence. I think us Brits have the better term than the Americans on that one. But I do prefer the American pronunciation for evolution, here it's generally pronounced "evil-ution".

I think the German nein is much better than our "no".

I like the French word parlais (speak) and think it's a beautiful word.

26

Affected by assembly

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

hi - first some context - i have been pimo for about 20 years now and so have been to a lot of assemblies in that time.

last weekend i went to a circuit assembly and for the first time afterwards i was able to talk directly to someone who knows i'm out.

i realised then that although i didn't agree with any teachings (i sat picking holes in the arguements as usual) the experience of being there had affected me - the way of life started feeling normal as did the overall way of viewing the world.

pale.emperor

Whenever i find something of theirs to be persuasive i stop and remind myself that this religion requires a lot of mental arithmetic, date shifting, downplaying failed predictions, adding to scripture and covering up child abuse.

Any religion that requires all that cant be true.

Plus, if it were true, it should be churning out happy people left right and center who go on to do wonderful things for their community and their fellowman but instead it takes in people looking for answers, uses them, chews them up and spits them out.

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On and off again JW girlfriend

by Crzysin in

hello everyone, i have an on and off again ex who is a jw.

each time her family gets involved and she's gone again.

i'm debating biting the bullet and doing the work to become baptized, so we can follow through with our engagement.

pale.emperor

Getting baptised is not a minor formality to progress your relationship. Once you are baptised your life is no longer your own.
My advice is - do not get baptised under any circumstances.

Good advice.

Obviously her family are giving her a hard time about you even though it's none of their business. Sounds to me like she is used to being controlled and told what to do. You both are old enough and mature enough to have your own kid each, so she should be old enough and mature enough to live her own life on her own terms.

If it were me i wouldn't be standing for this shit, make her an ultimatum. Either you're together or you're not. If she wants to let her family control her relationships then let her leave and you find yourself someone stronger.

If you got baptized you're handing your control and your balls over to her family AND the Watchtower Society. Baptism in this religion isnt like any other religion were you can walk away later without reprisals.

And think of your kid. Your kid will be expected to live in that mental prison too.

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What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing You Have Heard From A Witness?

by minimus in

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friends

i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.

he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.

interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.

pale.emperor

I used to love hearing demon stories. One of my ex-gf's dad claimed that he knocked on an occultists home and when the man put his hand out to accept the magazine, chains suddenly appeared on his wrists and pulled his arm back.

Bull - shit!

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Anyone like to meet up to compare notes?

by Farmer Jim1 in

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friends

hi folks, i’m heading off on a road trip of northern uk next week and, living in a very rural place, would be keen to take the opportunity to meet up with any ex-jws/current jws to compare notes on jw and post-jw life.. if anyone is available please pm me.. for the record i’m 18 months out of jw, was a ‘model jw child’ & longtime ms & reg pio.

leaving was the best life decision i ever made!.

regards.

pale.emperor

Im in Liverpool but dont mind going to Manchester for a meet up.

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How do you deal with the loneliness after leaving?

by Whynot in

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friends

i'm having one of those days where i feel lonely and wish i had someone to just hang out with.

my husband got disfellowshipped 3 years ago and even though i didn't do anything wrong i was pushed away.

my so called "friends" decided to avoid me.

pale.emperor

I signed up to a life drawing class and met tons of people there with the same interest as me (drawing). Have a lookout online for local classes in whatever you're interested in.

Also, meetup.com is a great place to start. I joined an international friends group made up of immigrants from every country living in the UK. We meet up in pubs and go on days out. I have like 20+ friends now from different cultures and languages.

i know it's tough, but if you put yourself out there you'll meet people. I promise you.

133

What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing You Have Heard From A Witness?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.

he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.

interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.

pale.emperor

One I distinctly recall is my mother telling me how another couple at the hall had some items in their attic that had gotten demon possessed. So they took the aforementioned items outside to burn them, but the demons were preventing the items from burning (items made from wood, cardboard, paper, clothing, etc). They even doused all the items with gasoline and yet the demons prevented them all from ever catching flame. Eventually they hauled the items away to a dump since they were permanently demonically inflammable.

I swear i was told this exact same story by my sister when i was a kid.

Incidentally, i burn a lot of waste wood and paper-crap in my backyard and it's not always easy to get books to burn. It takes a few goes, there a knack to it.

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What is the strangest book or craziest book the JWs have ever printed?

by blownaway in

what do you think the crazies or strangest book they ever printed is?.

pale.emperor

Did anyone ever read Angels & Women (formally known as Seola by JG Smith)? It was published in 1924 and was basically a prequel to the flood of Noah's day told in story form by someone living in that time. Apparently an angel dictated the entire book to Mrs JG Smith and she wrote and published Seola. CT Russell encouraged his followers to buy it and read it.

The Golden Age magazine July 30, 1924, p. 702:

“ANGELS AND WOMEN” is the title of a book just off the press. It is a reproduction and revision of the novel, “Seola” which was written in 1878, and which deals with conditions prior to the flood. Pastor Russell read this book with keen interest, and requested some of his friends to read it because of its striking harmony with the Scriptural account of the sons of God described in the sixth chapter of Genesis. Those sons of God became evil, and debauched the human family prior to, and up to, the time of the great deluge. We call attention to this book because we believe it will be of interest to Bible Students, who are familiar with the machinations of the devil and the demons and the influence exercised by them prior to the flood and also now in this evil day. The book throws light on the subject and is believed, will aid those who carefully consider it to avoid the baneful effects of spiritism, now so prevalent in the world. The book is revised and published by a personal friend of Pastor Russell, and one who was close to him in his work. It is published by the A. B. Abac Company, New York city.