the guy everyone loves to hate, bob, has come up with a classic:.
redefining the concept of "critical thinking" when it comes to jws.. he quite correctly states the need to use critical thinking when reading the bible, yet we all know that pimi jws don't have the first clue what "critical thinking" really means, especially on a thread fawning over how great the gb are and guessing who will be presenting the next jwb!.
the link to the actual comment is:.
You should read some of the things they're saying about me since i was booted off the forum. Bear in mind I got booted for asking too many questions about the overlapping generation - the mods are saying:
"You really dont want to know. You would feel so dirty soap and water would not be enough to make you feel clean again."
the guy everyone loves to hate, bob, has come up with a classic:.
redefining the concept of "critical thinking" when it comes to jws.. he quite correctly states the need to use critical thinking when reading the bible, yet we all know that pimi jws don't have the first clue what "critical thinking" really means, especially on a thread fawning over how great the gb are and guessing who will be presenting the next jwb!.
the link to the actual comment is:.
I'm sure I lost brain cells every time i visited that site.
Never thought i'd say this, but i think i hate Bob just as much as Tony Morris. He has his crappy blog page with videos defending JW beliefs. His one on shunning is simply a work of art that Joseph Goebbels would be proud of... he claims shunning ex-members is OK because it's just like when you get fired from your job, the employees of that workplace then shun you.... right?
Not in the real world, Bob. If your old workmates are shunning you it's because you're a dick.
at the regional convention, the speaker said that jehovah is our best friend.
so let's see...if i need a ride to the doctor's office can i call on my best friend to give me a ride to the office?
when i wake up in the morning and tell my best friend jehovah, "good morning, how are you?
I remember when i first woke up and my brain would automatically start a prayer before i ate. I managed to stop it by looking up to the sky and saying "thanks Thor!" instead. The absurdity of it all told my brain that praying was silly.
interesting how watchtower have twisted whats actually happened and how they've presented it to their members:.
from https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/canada/supreme-court-rules-20180531/.
in a unanimous decision released on may 31, 2018, the supreme court of canada recognized that the disfellowshipping arrangement should remain free from court intervention.
I understand that Earnest. But what I'm getting at is the way JW.borg have reported it is as if the courts regard disfellowshiping and it's consequences as just and not a big deal.
interesting how watchtower have twisted whats actually happened and how they've presented it to their members:.
from https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/canada/supreme-court-rules-20180531/.
in a unanimous decision released on may 31, 2018, the supreme court of canada recognized that the disfellowshipping arrangement should remain free from court intervention.
Interesting how Watchtower have twisted whats actually happened and how they've presented it to their members:
From https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/canada/supreme-court-rules-20180531/
In a unanimous decision released on May 31, 2018, the Supreme Court of Canada recognized that the disfellowshipping arrangement should remain free from court intervention. We rejoice in this vindication of Jehovah’s righteous standards.—Isaiah 33:22.
https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/17101/index.do
First of all, the court ruled that intervention fell out of their juristiction - it nowhere stated that they agree with this practice.
Secondly, the interveners in the court case were representatives of other churches. So it's "satans" churches that have actually ruled this. Namely:
Canadian Council of Christian Charities,
Association for Reformed Political Action Canada,
Canadian Constitution Foundation,
Evangelical Fellowship of Canada,
Catholic Civil Rights League,
Christian Legal Fellowship,
World Sikh Organization of Canada,
Seventh‑day Adventist Church in Canada,
Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms,
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter‑day Saints in Canada,
British Columbia Civil Liberties Association and
Canadian Muslim Lawyers AssociationThirdly, the court case was conducted with witnesses present, the judge and jury were two separate entities and the interveners had no conflict of interest - totally the opposite of how Watchtower carries out judicial committees! Imagine how outraged Watchtower would be if they were treated the same as a JC.
Fourthly, this is the same supreme court in which a Watchtower lawyer lied about the disfellowshipping arrangement - stating that families ties stay in place and it's only spiritual association that is effected.
so, this week on the clm there was an interesting comment at our kh.. under the "apply yourself to the field ministry" portion this week, there was the bible study assignment based on the publication: who are doing jehovah’s will today?
published in 2016. the material was from lesson 28 "what can be found on our website?
there is a footnote at the bottom that reads: .
Hmmmm... he sounds like a clever guy. What he said is absolutely reasonable.
I am sure there are a lot of JWs lurking on this forum. They know what is written here is true but yet they still cling to their religion. Who knows? Maybe they cannot leave..yet.
What brought me to this forum when I was PIMI was sheer anger at the elders interfering and micromanaging every choice in my life. I came here to find a listening ear and boy did i find it!
reading some post on here today has me wonder ing if there is some others out there that understands the duplicet fickle person i am on the inside.
i was brought to the kingdom hall 3-4 times a week.
to this day i have an aversion totuesdays.
It's not unusual to go through the stages of PTSD after leaving a high control group. We can all relate to finding it strange, unusual and at times downright scary adjusting to the real world. The important thing first and foremost is to know that you're not alone. This forum was and still is like therapy to me. Do make sure you visit and read, contribute and post your journey. Maybe even share your story of how you ended up in the religion and how you managed to leave? This can be quite therapeutic.
Take it slow. There's no need to rush. You'll make friends in time if you make sure you get out there. I personally joined classes like art and joined a meetup group on meetup.com. I found a group with the same interests as mine and made lots of friends.
As for self esteem, it's all about how you regard yourself. How do talk to/about yourself? At times we tend to focus on the negatives but there will always be cool things about you. Focus on the things you like about yourself, discover new music and bands that make you feel good. Even re-style yourself. I changed my entire dress sense (for the better!) and i started to feel good about myself.
And, of course, stop reading the Watchtower rags.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XORVj8pRts
I'm only partly qualified (so far) in therapy and counseling so I'll leave it there.
this is bigger than christmas and birthdays wrap into one.
thanks to the australian royal commission our youngest son has woke up.
we received a e-mail from him tonight where he apologized to us for shunning us all these years, how bad he felt for doing this.
Brilliant!!
i know of three situations i saw myself.
the first one was when i lived in arcadia.
all the people i use names on are dead and gone so no probs.
I think more homosexual members are coming out into the open slowly but surely since the org changed their stance from:
"...masturbation can lead into homosexuality. In such instances the person, not satisfied with his lonely sexual activity, seeks a partner for mutual sex play. This happens much more frequently than you may realize. Contrary to what many persons think, homosexuals are not born that way, but their homosexual behavior is learned. And often a person gets started when very young by playing with another's sexual parts, and then engaging in homosexual acts." Your Youth - Getting the Best out of It (1976) p.39
To:
"Although the Bible condemns homosexual acts, it does not encourage prejudice,
hate crimes, or any other kind of mistreatment of homosexuals....Awake! no.4, 2016."
I remember two men who by now are in the mid-thirties. They've lived together since their early 20s. They go on holidays together, out for meals together, both are goodlooking and girls fawn over them but they're not interested. One of them emigrated to Cyprus but returned after 6 months as "they missed eachother" (their own words). They're both ministerial servants and dont act effeminate or anything but I'd bet my life on them being gay. Nothing wrong with that. An elders son who works with one of them once told me that they've both been in a few JCs over the years.
Another brother who's 100% hardcore Jdub, your next circuit overseer. 28yo, lives with his parents, his best friend is his sister. Never had a girlfriend, talks like a girl, wears foundation for "his complexion" and can be found every Saturday afternoon shopping with the sisters in the mall.
If he's not gay he's the biggest cissy I've ever seen.
Again, not that there's anything wrong with that!
just seen on twitter: .
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How long can you go without laughing?
I managed 9 seconds once:
