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  Smart Phones and Tablets Turning JW's Into Dummies

  by scotoma in

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  look up the article in the wall st journal "how smartphones hijack our minds".

  a flood of evidence has come in that people are outsourcing their thinking to their electronic devices.

  when you feel you will always be able to look up important information on your cell phone you simply don't remember it.

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  Ah but they are fantastic for us PIMOs as a way to alleviate the boredom at the meetings!

  Near the end of my JW life i used to visit JWFacts on the KH wifi.
  
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  How Would You Prove To A JW That They Are Wrong?

  by minimus in

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  what could you say to prove to a witness that they simply do not have the truth?.

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  At the end of the day, it takes the JW to become fed up or angry at the elders or something in the congregation to jolt them out of it for a split moment. It's at this moment where they may look at this site of JWFact.com.

  When I was in I had an answer for everything to protect the Watchtower and my own sanity.
  
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  How many wrongs make a right?

  by eyeuse2badub in

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  2. beliefs

  came across this little gem while my wife was "digging for bible gems" in her weekly meeting preparation.

  nothing new but i gently pointed it out to her as a reminder that bible reading can be hazardous to your mental health!.

  do 2 (or 3, or 4) wrongs, make a right?

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  David get called out in front of all Israel, he gets to see his wives get raped in ‘broad daylight’

  Here is a little more research on the incident in historical context.

  Perry, that whole artical is worse than I thought. Women being forced into marriage to make alliances? Was the girls permission or will even considered? Oh but god is "so kind" to put them into a harem (translation: sex slave). How can and all knowing, all wise, all loving, all kind deity have the brain sense of a bronze age man?
  

  A primitive book written by and for primitive men
  
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  What is the current pulse in the organization with the reductions?

  by SouthCentral in

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  2. friends

  i have not seen jehovah’s witnesses in my neighborhood for several years now.

  it appears that the cart witnessing has taken over.

  congregations are being consolidated and witnesses are being forced to travel a greater distance than before.the burdens/privileges of elders seem to be ever increasing!.

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  Google analytics for the UK shows interest in JW.borg is waning too. Imagine if this was the stock market and you saw stocks performing like this for the last year:

  
  
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  Healing & Rebuilding Your Life - Feedback Wanted

  by jp1692 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been invited to speak at an international cultic studies association workshop this fall.

  i could use your help in focusing on my presentation subject.. these workshops are for former members of any cult or other high-control, authoritarian group, not just jehovah's witnesses.

  last year, i spoke at one of their larger conferences in europe.

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  If it were me i'd order them like this:
  

  1. Discovering Your Authentic Self - (personal identity)
  2. Dealing With Isolation and Loneliness (shunning)
  3. The Five Stages of Grief/loss (Kübler-Ross model)
  4. Treatments & Interventions - seeking treatments from working with mental health professionals to self-help
  5. Examining Our Beliefs: Identifying the false and harmful (dysfunctional) core beliefs which are the root cause of our on-going difficulties after leaving
  6. Psychoeducation - this is closely related to #2 above, but is frankly more technical

  Although all of them are important, it'd be difficult to cover all of them sufficiently in 20mins so i'd go for the top two there.

  Discovering your authentic self: Reason being, so many ex-JWs i speak to tell me that they're still "finding themselves", and about 90% of them slip up and still say things like "when i was in the truth...". The loaded language is still there, and until it's removed they'll still have some sort of psychological/emotional connection to the cult. The advice I give to ex-members is to "go nuts". Take a week or even a month of doing all the things you wanted to do but were never allowed to. You'll learn which things you like and which things you dont like. And now, at least you'll have your own reasons for not doing X, Y and Z rather than "the Watchtower said". Also studying anything/everything that interests you too. You'll discover the real you and hobbies/skills you didn't know you even had.
  

  Dealing with isolation/loss is a very important one. In fact, it's one of the reasons many people dont even bother leaving. The fear of the unknown, uncertainty if they'll ever find friends or have their own family. It also helps them to convince themselves it's "the truth" when they're facing cognitive dissonance.
  
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  Don't even try it!

  by JTrottigy in

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  there are many here who think they can infiltrate my web-site.

  be warned that we administrators of jwtalk call the listed congregation on your application for membership in our site to verify if they know you!.

  some of you have slipped through the cracks and got into our site, but rest assured, we will find you out and ban you!.

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  Trotters has gotta be a virgin!
  
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  Apostate - what does the word mean to you?

  by Tallon in

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  2. beliefs

  over a period of time i got to thinking - what does the word 'apostate' mean to me.

  having given it some thought, this is my view;.

  the org has given the word its own definition and basically use it to demonise people and consider them pariahs.. however, the jw meaning of 'apostate' is a mere word and only has power if recognised as such.

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  It's a trigger word that invokes a knee-jerk response.

  It's like hearing someone being called a pedophile, you cant help up be on guard with the person after hearing it, even if it's proven to be untrue.
  
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  Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.

  now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.

  i was raised into it.

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  From what I've seen so far, "any real dialog" is too difficult for you to attain, much like your inability to spell "whack" correctly.

  This /\ from a guy who believes in talking snakes and talking donkeys.
  
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  Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.

  now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.

  i was raised into it.

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  And no doubt jookbeard Butt-Head was hanging onto your left ankle with his right hand, trying to prevent you from crossing the finish line first. No doubt it was YOU who caused your mother all that grief constantly kicking her insides. And you caused her even more grief years later when you decided to marry that pagan. And after you had sold your birthright you kept it a secret, not informing your father about the deal you made with Butt-Head. In case you need someone to explain it to you--that was deceitful of YOU! You deceived your own father!!! And then after your deceit backfired you got all angry and wanted to kill your brother, Butt-Head!!!! Bad boy, bad boy, what you gonna do when they come for you!!!!!!!

  
  
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  The clown factory at Warwick

  by Sour Grapes in

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  2. bible

  it just amazes me how the clown factory at the borgs basilica in warwick could produce 8 clown popes that act like self-licking ice cream cones and the jdubs take them so seriously.

  if the popes said that they were going to have a bible signing session at a king dumb hall 8 hours away that so many jdubs would make the trip the town would be swamped with traffic.. you know what is truly sad is when during jdub public prayers, the governing body gets more praise than the head of the congregation.

  all jesus gets is the final "in jesus name.".

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  It's only a matter of time before they pull some "new light" from someones ass and become "saints" or something.

  Remember Trotters on here the other day, what did he call them? Glorious Ones? [capital letters too!]
  

  "She should feel guilty for speaking abusively of one of the Glorious Ones. I really like the way Brother Morris lays it on the line in plain terms so there is no chance of misunderstanding what he said! There should be more Jehovah's Witnesses just like him." - Trottigy

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/users/5523125350432768/JTrottigy/posts
  

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