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  S 147 for august 2018

  by obarac in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone have s 147 for august?.

  rumors about big announcement.. any hear about that..

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  pale.emperor

  The announcement will be that Tony Morris has a new live-in Filipino houseboy to "help him". Surely this is a fulfillment of some prophecy they've just pulled out of their ass.
  
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  How were God’s true worshipers to determine virginity of pagan girls?

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the genocidal instructions supposedly given by god we find this interesting command: “now kill all the boys.

  and kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.” (numbers 31:17, 18).

  in the midst of killing and plundering, how were the israelites to determine whether each girl “has slept with a man” or not?.

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  Dueteronomy 22:15-17 indicates a "test". If your bride didn't bleed afterwards then she wasn't a virgin.

  Its likely that in this case if the girl that was raped by the Israelite didn't bleed then she'd be killed.

  Horrific isn't it?
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  Smart Phones and Tablets Turning JW's Into Dummies

  by scotoma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  look up the article in the wall st journal "how smartphones hijack our minds".

  a flood of evidence has come in that people are outsourcing their thinking to their electronic devices.

  when you feel you will always be able to look up important information on your cell phone you simply don't remember it.

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  Ah but they are fantastic for us PIMOs as a way to alleviate the boredom at the meetings!

  Near the end of my JW life i used to visit JWFacts on the KH wifi.
  
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  How Would You Prove To A JW That They Are Wrong?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what could you say to prove to a witness that they simply do not have the truth?.

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  At the end of the day, it takes the JW to become fed up or angry at the elders or something in the congregation to jolt them out of it for a split moment. It's at this moment where they may look at this site of JWFact.com.

  When I was in I had an answer for everything to protect the Watchtower and my own sanity.
  
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  How many wrongs make a right?

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  came across this little gem while my wife was "digging for bible gems" in her weekly meeting preparation.

  nothing new but i gently pointed it out to her as a reminder that bible reading can be hazardous to your mental health!.

  do 2 (or 3, or 4) wrongs, make a right?

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  pale.emperor

  David get called out in front of all Israel, he gets to see his wives get raped in ‘broad daylight’

  Here is a little more research on the incident in historical context.

  Perry, that whole artical is worse than I thought. Women being forced into marriage to make alliances? Was the girls permission or will even considered? Oh but god is "so kind" to put them into a harem (translation: sex slave). How can and all knowing, all wise, all loving, all kind deity have the brain sense of a bronze age man?
  

  A primitive book written by and for primitive men
  
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  What is the current pulse in the organization with the reductions?

  by SouthCentral in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have not seen jehovah’s witnesses in my neighborhood for several years now.

  it appears that the cart witnessing has taken over.

  congregations are being consolidated and witnesses are being forced to travel a greater distance than before.the burdens/privileges of elders seem to be ever increasing!.

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  Google analytics for the UK shows interest in JW.borg is waning too. Imagine if this was the stock market and you saw stocks performing like this for the last year:

  
  
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  Healing & Rebuilding Your Life - Feedback Wanted

  by jp1692 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been invited to speak at an international cultic studies association workshop this fall.

  i could use your help in focusing on my presentation subject.. these workshops are for former members of any cult or other high-control, authoritarian group, not just jehovah's witnesses.

  last year, i spoke at one of their larger conferences in europe.

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  If it were me i'd order them like this:
  

  1. Discovering Your Authentic Self - (personal identity)
  2. Dealing With Isolation and Loneliness (shunning)
  3. The Five Stages of Grief/loss (Kübler-Ross model)
  4. Treatments & Interventions - seeking treatments from working with mental health professionals to self-help
  5. Examining Our Beliefs: Identifying the false and harmful (dysfunctional) core beliefs which are the root cause of our on-going difficulties after leaving
  6. Psychoeducation - this is closely related to #2 above, but is frankly more technical

  Although all of them are important, it'd be difficult to cover all of them sufficiently in 20mins so i'd go for the top two there.

  Discovering your authentic self: Reason being, so many ex-JWs i speak to tell me that they're still "finding themselves", and about 90% of them slip up and still say things like "when i was in the truth...". The loaded language is still there, and until it's removed they'll still have some sort of psychological/emotional connection to the cult. The advice I give to ex-members is to "go nuts". Take a week or even a month of doing all the things you wanted to do but were never allowed to. You'll learn which things you like and which things you dont like. And now, at least you'll have your own reasons for not doing X, Y and Z rather than "the Watchtower said". Also studying anything/everything that interests you too. You'll discover the real you and hobbies/skills you didn't know you even had.
  

  Dealing with isolation/loss is a very important one. In fact, it's one of the reasons many people dont even bother leaving. The fear of the unknown, uncertainty if they'll ever find friends or have their own family. It also helps them to convince themselves it's "the truth" when they're facing cognitive dissonance.
  
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  Don't even try it!

  by JTrottigy in

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  2. friends

  there are many here who think they can infiltrate my web-site.

  be warned that we administrators of jwtalk call the listed congregation on your application for membership in our site to verify if they know you!.

  some of you have slipped through the cracks and got into our site, but rest assured, we will find you out and ban you!.

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  Trotters has gotta be a virgin!
  
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  Apostate - what does the word mean to you?

  by Tallon in

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  2. beliefs

  over a period of time i got to thinking - what does the word 'apostate' mean to me.

  having given it some thought, this is my view;.

  the org has given the word its own definition and basically use it to demonise people and consider them pariahs.. however, the jw meaning of 'apostate' is a mere word and only has power if recognised as such.

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  It's a trigger word that invokes a knee-jerk response.

  It's like hearing someone being called a pedophile, you cant help up be on guard with the person after hearing it, even if it's proven to be untrue.
  
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  Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.

  now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.

  i was raised into it.

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  From what I've seen so far, "any real dialog" is too difficult for you to attain, much like your inability to spell "whack" correctly.

  This /\ from a guy who believes in talking snakes and talking donkeys.